The trouble is that even if interests are prevented by law from spreading outright deception, they will spread half-truths. It's left to us (if we bother) to fill in the missing pieces and decide what is worthwhile (ex, subsidies), but even then it's hard to know what we're voting for.
Wired article about ethanol
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since about 80% of all corn is GMO, the byproduct is surely NOT good food for animals which we humans eat unless your a fan of roundup by monsanto a killer of another kind. thats another story on its own unless you have no idea, just search GMO corn
Originally Posted By: benjy
since about 80% of all corn is GMO, the byproduct is surely NOT good food for animals which we humans eat unless your a fan of roundup by monsanto a killer of another kind. thats another story on its own unless you have no idea, just search GMO corn
There are a lot of different GMO that may or may not be a problem. I wouldn't group them together. I have no problem with stronger root system and husk that increase yield with less water, but I have big problem when they add BT toxin in the crops I eat.
since about 80% of all corn is GMO, the byproduct is surely NOT good food for animals which we humans eat unless your a fan of roundup by monsanto a killer of another kind. thats another story on its own unless you have no idea, just search GMO corn
There are a lot of different GMO that may or may not be a problem. I wouldn't group them together. I have no problem with stronger root system and husk that increase yield with less water, but I have big problem when they add BT toxin in the crops I eat.
The problem is you are completely unaware of what they bring, as they do not publish the entire genome they created.
There's likely to be some bad surprises due to Mansanto's monkeying around. Corn is no longer a food in our house.
There's likely to be some bad surprises due to Mansanto's monkeying around. Corn is no longer a food in our house.
GMO wheat is also a problem, makes you fatter then possible sicker depending on how sensitive you are. All wheat is now GMO, from which you can not escape.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50138376n
I have cut back on wheat and I have lost 20 lbs easy.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50138376n
I have cut back on wheat and I have lost 20 lbs easy.
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Originally Posted By: PandaBear
There are a lot of different GMO that may or may not be a problem. I wouldn't group them together. I have no problem with stronger root system and husk that increase yield with less water, but I have big problem when they add BT toxin in the crops I eat.
I have to defer back to Gary Allan's "Law of unintended consequences" when it comes to gene splicing.
Selective cross breeding can lead to better roots, husks, grain size, etc., but is a process that is natural, as a grass/grass cross isn't a grass/funnelweb spider cross, and doesn't lead to things like gene leakage from roundup ready, peanut gene soy or canola leaking roundup ready genes into weeds.
Selective breeding breeds out entropicaly, GM creates creates a step change that can't have predicted consequences.
There are a lot of different GMO that may or may not be a problem. I wouldn't group them together. I have no problem with stronger root system and husk that increase yield with less water, but I have big problem when they add BT toxin in the crops I eat.
I have to defer back to Gary Allan's "Law of unintended consequences" when it comes to gene splicing.
Selective cross breeding can lead to better roots, husks, grain size, etc., but is a process that is natural, as a grass/grass cross isn't a grass/funnelweb spider cross, and doesn't lead to things like gene leakage from roundup ready, peanut gene soy or canola leaking roundup ready genes into weeds.
Selective breeding breeds out entropicaly, GM creates creates a step change that can't have predicted consequences.
"Superweeds" are already showing up all over the place. They cannot be easily killed so they have been using a ton more herbicides on the crops afflicted.
All from our "friend" Monsanto!
All from our "friend" Monsanto!
The true value of ethanol from corn is 1. It replaces MTBE (SP?) as a octane fortifier and helps reduce water problems. Any source of ethanol does this.
2. living in the corn belt prior to using ethanol in fuel, extra corn was bought by the govt to keep farmers in business in good years. Much of this wen to waste. Now farmers can sell excess for fuel. This reduces the need of the govt to keep our food production high (prices low... never run out) while slightly reducing our over seas oil consumption. E-85 puts a strain on the supply and is not commercially viable. Using corn to ethanol for E-10 is essentially win win. It does cause a slight MPG reduction.
2. living in the corn belt prior to using ethanol in fuel, extra corn was bought by the govt to keep farmers in business in good years. Much of this wen to waste. Now farmers can sell excess for fuel. This reduces the need of the govt to keep our food production high (prices low... never run out) while slightly reducing our over seas oil consumption. E-85 puts a strain on the supply and is not commercially viable. Using corn to ethanol for E-10 is essentially win win. It does cause a slight MPG reduction.
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