Wife thinks next vehicle should be an EV.

[AZjeff]

Wouldn't happen for a couple of years and something would have to change as I won't have 3 and we're still towing a trailer and the jeep is still fun. Whether a BEV, HEV, or PHEV unclear. No sedans and no need to accelerate like John Force or corner like Helio. Not against EVs but not seeing anything right now I'd want. Maybe she'll forget.... but I believe in let wife pick her (our) car.

 

[JoelB]

Politics aside an EV would work well for my wife an I. 1 EV 1 ICE vehicle. We live close to home and rarely leave town. Biggest thing holding me back is price and depreciation.

 

[alarmguy]

Wouldn't happen for a couple of years and something would have to change as I won't have 3 and we're still towing a trailer and the jeep is still fun. Whether a BEV, HEV, or PHEV unclear. No sedans and no need to accelerate like John Force or corner like Helio. Not against EVs but not seeing anything right now I'd want. Maybe she'll forget.... but I believe in let wife pick her (our) car.

Im right there with you for the same exact reasons as my wife for "her" car and the reason we have our (my) Traverse with factory tow package.
@JoelB yes, an EV would work good if my wife wanted one for her car too. Her car is used around town, price is a big factor though when comparing gas vs ev.
I have a "family" member and her family move to Minnesota ... doesnt it get, like super cold there in winter from what I thought.

 

[Danno]

As a second car, if you charge at home, and your daily driving is max 60% of advertised range, go for it.

..imo.

 

[vinu_neuro]

We are a 1 ICE, 1 EV household. I work from home and my wife commutes to work about 10 miles away. Having one of each is working well and in the future when the vehicles+infrastructure have matured more, both of us will have EV's as daily drivers and ICE for a third car. EV's frankly are much better at daily duty than ICE. My Q5 usually gets driven only once a week to keep things lubricated, and it's main utility at this point is for longer trips or when we both separately need a car at the same time.

1. Acceleration and power/torque delivery are significantly better than ICE or hybrid for around town driving
2. Not having to fill gas outside in winter
3. Pre-conditioning cabin without fuel waste and fuel dilution
4. Overall fuel savings
5. Maintenance savings and general lack of maintenance required

 

[GR_CoB]

I think the new Prius is a much better option.
- Quite peppy, compared to all previous generations.
- 196 horsepower, 57MPG, and AWD is available.
- Looks great, at least in my opinion.
- Toyota reliability.
- A 5 minute fuel fill up beats the chargers.
- And it's priced well compared to EVs, while keeping its resale value, unlike the EVs.

A couple things worth noting: most EVs seem to suffer from AC not being strong enough in hot summers, and lose a lot of range in winter due to cold, while providing "eh" level of warmth for the occupants. This does not seem to be an issue in a Prius though...

 

[Speedbird001]

Happy wife: happy life

Also the Porsche Takeon (sp?) is SICK

 

[alarmguy]

As a second car, if you charge at home, and your daily driving is max 60% of advertised range, go for it.

..imo.

Agree, as long as the price is right

 

[JoelB]

Im right there with you for the same exact reasons as my wife for "her" car and the reason we have our (my) Traverse with factory tow package.
@JoelB yes, an EV would work good if my wife wanted one for her car too. Her car is used around town, price is a big factor though when comparing gas vs ev.
I have a "family" member and her family move to Minnesota ... doesnt it get, like super cold there in winter from what I thought.

Yes, this winter was pretty easy. I don't think we ever got below -15F. Coldest I've seen in my lifetime was -37F. Everything starts to break and malfunction at those temps. It's a major consideration for us as we think about EV's and battery condition relating to the weather.

 

[alarmguy]

I think the new Prius is a much better option.
- Quite peppy, compared to all previous generations.
- 196 horsepower, 57MPG, and AWD is available.
- Looks great, at least in my opinion.
- Extremely fuel efficient.
- Toyota reliability.
- A 5 minute fuel fill up beats the chargers.
- And it's priced well compared to EVs, while keeping its resale value, unlike the EVs.
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A couple things worth noting: most EVs seem to suffer from AC not being strong enough in hot summers, and lose a lot of range in winter due to cold, while providing "eh" level of warmth for the occupants. While it does not seem to be an issue in a Prius though...

Yeah, I think Toyota nailed it and just think, less than two years ago the world was trashing Toyota for not exclusively focusing on EVs.
I think it will be on such high demand for the reasons you mention, easy to fill up, that the price is going to be way up there, meaning lower base models will be far and few between but still less than base model EVs. Sharp looking car for sure.

 

[Urshurak776]

For a local to home vehicle only, where you would only charge it at home 99% of the time, sure. Assuming you have a gas car also for everything else. Infrastructure in the USA isn't even close. Not by a long shot. The Hybrids make more sense though. Gas/electric. I would lean more towards that for me. Everyone needs to asses how it would work where they live and buy accordingly.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Wouldn't happen for a couple of years and something would have to change as I won't have 3 and we're still towing a trailer and the jeep is still fun. Whether a BEV, HEV, or PHEV unclear. No sedans and no need to accelerate like John Force or corner like Helio. Not against EVs but not seeing anything right now I'd want. Maybe she'll forget.... but I believe in let wife pick her (our) car.

We could easily get away with an EV however the 1-car garage put the kibosh on that.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Yeah, I think Toyota nailed it and just think, less than two years ago the world was trashing Toyota for not exclusively focusing on EVs.
I think it will be on such high demand for the reasons you mention, easy to fill up, that the price is going to be way up there, meaning lower base models will be far and few between but still less than base model EVs. Sharp looking car for sure.

They deserved the trashing as they were in an around about way complaining that they can't build a cheap EV.

 

[JoelB]

I think the new Prius is a much better option.
- Quite peppy, compared to all previous generations.
- 196 horsepower, 57MPG, and AWD is available.
- Looks great, at least in my opinion.
- Toyota reliability.
- A 5 minute fuel fill up beats the chargers.
- And it's priced well compared to EVs, while keeping its resale value, unlike the EVs.
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A couple things worth noting: most EVs seem to suffer from AC not being strong enough in hot summers, and lose a lot of range in winter due to cold, while providing "eh" level of warmth for the occupants. This does not seem to be an issue in a Prius though...

Let me start by saying I like hybrids. I would happily drive a Prius. BUT not all driving environments favor a hybrid over a BEV. We do many many short trips. Many times in the bitter cold in winter. The hybrid is really a bad solution for this. The gas engine never warms up and constantly runs in a rich inefficient manner. As with anything it's highly dependent on use case.

 

[Trav]

I can see the hybrid as the best of both worlds and eliminates most if not all the inconveniences of a pure EV. Prius is a Toyota, it doesnt get much better than that.

 

[DriveHard]

I think the new Prius is a much better option.
- Quite peppy, compared to all previous generations.
- 196 horsepower, 57MPG, and AWD is available.
- Looks great, at least in my opinion.
- Toyota reliability.
- A 5 minute fuel fill up beats the chargers.
- And it's priced well compared to EVs, while keeping its resale value, unlike the EVs.
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A couple things worth noting: most EVs seem to suffer from AC not being strong enough in hot summers, and lose a lot of range in winter due to cold, while providing "eh" level of warmth for the occupants. This does not seem to be an issue in a Prius though...

But...but...but...it is a Prius.

When looking for a hybrid to replace the electric EV6 we had, the Prius was ruled out quickly by my wife as she refused to drive one. It also wasn't big enough. We ended up with a 2024 Sportage hybrid...230hp, AWD, and I have been averaging a real ~40 mpg going to work and back...about half city, and half interstate, 23-25 minutes.

 

[The Critic]

I can see the hybrid as the best of both worlds and eliminates most if not all the inconveniences of a pure EV. Prius is a Toyota, it doesnt get much better than that.

If you have solid L2 charging at home and never drive it more than 100 miles from home, an EV is an excellent 10-yr car.

(and there are a lot of us who fit into this category)

 

[JeffKeryk]

Hybrids are great; our RX450h F Sport gets the same or better mileage than our beloved TSX 4 banger.
Based on my experience and use case, I doubt I will ever buy another gas fueled vehicle, at least new. Unless it's a pickup...

I really like the GS350 F Sport, but gassing up is such a hassle (and expensive!) in comparison to the Tesla. But the GS is a great car.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Plug in hybrid - Rav4Prime, etc. would seem to match your requirements.

 

[JeffKeryk]

If you have solid L2 charging at home and never drive it more than 100 miles from home, an EV is an excellent 10-yr car.

(and there are a lot of us who fit into this category)

Add solar panels to the mix and you've got a pretty strong argument.