Why Rebel Groups Love Toyota...

[ekpolk]

Originally Posted By: ArrestMeRedZ
The 500 lb bomb filled with cement wasn't a particularily brilliant invention - it's the standard configuration for training ordinance called an inert 500 pounder. You can drop the bomb with exact ballistics of the bomb filled with explosives, but you don't have the danger and associated real estate requirements in a training environment.

Using that configuration on a truck in a schoolyard was a nice touch, though.

As to U.S. built Toyota pickups, I'm less impressed. My stepfather got in to a tussle with a bush with an early 90s version, and totaled the "truck". A Ford, Chevy or Dodge would have gone right through it without more than a scratch in the paint.


Yeah, but how many blue bombs are stocked in a combat zone?

 

[kelpie]

Originally Posted By: Scdevon
Originally Posted By: kelpie
You still see old Ford, Chevy and Dodges on the road from the 1970s, but where are all the old imports?


You're talking about America where import trucks weren't sold in anywhere near the numbers that Ford, Chevy and Dodge trucks were. Naturally, there are more 70's American trucks driving down American roads than Toyotas because there were WAY more of them sold here.

I agree that domestic trucks from the 70's were pretty good, but they weren't THAT good where people seek them out for use in 3rd world countries. In arid areas of the world where rust isn't an issue, old Toyota trucks run forever.

For example, GM had major camshaft problems in their V8's during this era. A rounded off camshaft is a major problem for a 3rd world person. Can't say I've ever seen a rounded off cam in a 20R or a 22R Toyota engine from that era.


There were a lot of them around at that time. Enough where you should see one or two every once and a while, but you don't. A rounded camshaft wouldn't immediately stop a truck from being in service, but a headgasket (and they all blew head gaskets back in the day) will overheat and the truck will be useless soon.

 

[Spyder7]

Originally Posted By: kelpie
Originally Posted By: Scdevon
Originally Posted By: kelpie
You still see old Ford, Chevy and Dodges on the road from the 1970s, but where are all the old imports?


You're talking about America where import trucks weren't sold in anywhere near the numbers that Ford, Chevy and Dodge trucks were. Naturally, there are more 70's American trucks driving down American roads than Toyotas because there were WAY more of them sold here.

I agree that domestic trucks from the 70's were pretty good, but they weren't THAT good where people seek them out for use in 3rd world countries. In arid areas of the world where rust isn't an issue, old Toyota trucks run forever.

For example, GM had major camshaft problems in their V8's during this era. A rounded off camshaft is a major problem for a 3rd world person. Can't say I've ever seen a rounded off cam in a 20R or a 22R Toyota engine from that era.


There were a lot of them around at that time. Enough where you should see one or two every once and a while, but you don't. A rounded camshaft wouldn't immediately stop a truck from being in service, but a headgasket (and they all blew head gaskets back in the day) will overheat and the truck will be useless soon.


An impact with 500 lbs of terminal velocity cement is one [censored] of way to expedite that though.

-Spyder

 

[IndyIan]

Originally Posted By: Spyder7
Originally Posted By: kelpie
Originally Posted By: Scdevon
Originally Posted By: kelpie
You still see old Ford, Chevy and Dodges on the road from the 1970s, but where are all the old imports?


You're talking about America where import trucks weren't sold in anywhere near the numbers that Ford, Chevy and Dodge trucks were. Naturally, there are more 70's American trucks driving down American roads than Toyotas because there were WAY more of them sold here.

I agree that domestic trucks from the 70's were pretty good, but they weren't THAT good where people seek them out for use in 3rd world countries. In arid areas of the world where rust isn't an issue, old Toyota trucks run forever.

For example, GM had major camshaft problems in their V8's during this era. A rounded off camshaft is a major problem for a 3rd world person. Can't say I've ever seen a rounded off cam in a 20R or a 22R Toyota engine from that era.


There were a lot of them around at that time. Enough where you should see one or two every once and a while, but you don't. A rounded camshaft wouldn't immediately stop a truck from being in service, but a headgasket (and they all blew head gaskets back in the day) will overheat and the truck will be useless soon.


An impact with 500 lbs of terminal velocity cement is one [censored] of way to expedite that though.

-Spyder

I figure about 9 million foot pounds of energy... Guessing a 700mph impact speed. Ouch! I think that would go through the armour of most Navy ships these days, let alone take out a pickup truck!

 

[XS650]

Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Originally Posted By: ArrestMeRedZ
The 500 lb bomb filled with cement wasn't a particularily brilliant invention - it's the standard configuration for training ordinance called an inert 500 pounder. You can drop the bomb with exact ballistics of the bomb filled with explosives, but you don't have the danger and associated real estate requirements in a training environment.

Using that configuration on a truck in a schoolyard was a nice touch, though.

....


Yeah, but how many blue bombs are stocked in a combat zone?


Don't need a blue bomb, use a regular old 500 lb'er and don't fuze it.

 

[d00df00d]

Originally Posted By: XS650
Don't need a blue bomb, use a regular old 500 lb'er and don't fuze it.

And leave 500 lbs of explosives in the middle of a school?