Why not Valvoline Restore and Protect for average Joe OCIs?

[The Critic]

Such a flawed test running that conventional for 10k intervals.

The test should have been running the synthetic for 10k and the conventional for 5k - which is what virtually any manufacturer would have specced to begin with. I bet the results would have been much different running it this way.

Ford specs conventional for up to 10K intervals.

 

[4wd]

That’s not what I recall from that video. I’m pretty sure they didn’t run 4 OCIs
I don’t even recall it being two intervals
I guess I should rewatch it

2 nuns walked into a bar … they, uh … wait … wrong thread

 

[tired]

I started watching the video again and at the beginning they said that they ran Valvoline Restore and Protect for 150 hours

But then he shows 4 used oil analysis reports. I think what he is showing is samples taken all from the same single interval. It shows a sample at 24 hours, at 72 hours, at 96 hours and then at 144 hours

Later in the video when he shows the pistons, he mentions that it was run for several intervals but I don’t think these pistons came out of the 500k engines. I think these are the same pistons that he showed in an earlier video where he visited Valvoline to talk about Valvoline Restore and Protect

Man this is really fascinating how multiple people can watch the same video and swear they say different things.



Start there and watch for the next 10 seconds or so.

You guys really trying to put me to work.

Both engines reassembled and both run with Valvoline Restore and Protect for two oci’s and disassembled.

This is where they talk about re-assembling them and running them again.

They continued running them after they reassembled. I think it's implied it's for a total of 4 OCIs as they discuss that this is the recommendation earlier in the video.

 

[CleanSump]

2 or 4, either way it cleaned.
For your car Valvoline recommends 4, so kind of like worrying how many cookies will make you fat. Two might, the Doc says 4 will.

 

[Japanese]

Valvoline Restore and Protect is not for the average Joe.

 

[CleanSump]

Valvoline Restore and Protect is not for the average Joe.

My empty Walmart shelf says otherwise.

 

[Japanese]

My empty Walmart shelf says otherwise.

So, all people who shop at Walmart are average?

 

[JohnnyG]

So, all people who shop at Walmart are average?

If not less.

 

[JohnnyG]

Well, less than average could mean BETTER than average, right?

 

[Number_35]

Well, after settling on Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 a few months ago, I'm now seriously considering running Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W-30 in the summer.

I still want a 0W-30 oil for the winter. It's too bad Valvoline Restore and Protect is not yet available in a 0W-30 grade.

 

[Japanese]

Well, after settling on Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 a few months ago, I'm now seriously considering running Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W-30 in the summer.

I still want a 0W-30 oil for the winter. It's too bad Valvoline Restore and Protect is not yet available in a 0W-30 grade.

Actually, Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 is better in the summer than Valvoline Restore and Protect because the first one is thicker.

 

[Number_35]

Actually, Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 is better in the summer than Valvoline Restore and Protect because the first one is thicker.

Agreed, but I'd be looking for the cleaning that the Valvoline Restore and Protect would provide.

 

[124via126]

Valvoline hasn’t done any 10k tests with Valvoline Restore and Protect. After doing the 500k runs with conventional and Valvoline synthetic then they did one single run with Valvoline Restore and Protect and it was around 150-200 hours of run time, not 10,000 miles worth.

200 hours × aver 50 mph
= 10K miles

They ran the engines on similar cycles that the original 500K miles tests were on at various speeds, etc.



IIRC they did teardowns after every 10K OCI with Valvoline Restore and Protect and noted the results, but IDK of they filmed/released it.

 

[tired]

IRC they did teardowns after every 10K OCI with Valvoline Restore and Protect and noted the results, but IDK of they filmed/released it.

They did two OCIs, then tore them down and noted results. They put them back together and continued running them, and although it's not explicitly reported it's another two OCIs, it's assumed to be since they mention 4 OCIs at the beginning, and tear them down again and show the pistons and torn down engine again at the end.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Valvoline hasn’t done any 10k tests with Valvoline Restore and Protect. After doing the 500k runs with conventional and Valvoline synthetic then they did one single run with Valvoline Restore and Protect and it was around 150-200 hours of run time, not 10,000 miles worth.

They did two 24 hour OCI runs of Valvoline Restore and Protect on both of those 500K engines. Tore them both down after those two 24 hour OCIs.

 

[ZeeOSix]

What? They did 4 OCIs with Valvoline Restore and Protect. They tore the engines down twice, once after two runs and then again after two more.

In the Valvoline video they only ran two 24 hour OCIs on each engine, not 4 on each engine. They only tore them down after the 2nd run with Valvoline Restore and Protect. They also changed the filter at 24 hour with the oil.

 

[ZeeOSix]

That's right. They did two runs then tore them down which was 80%+ of the video. Then two more runs and then another teardown with a quick look at the pistons.

I don't think there were two separate tear downs on each engine in the Valvoline Restore and Protect testing. Two 24 hrs runs, so 48 hrs total on Valvoline Restore and Protect. Then the tear down on each engine. The future planned runs haven't been done and published yet.

Hope people don't need to be an eye witness in court.

 

[ZeeOSix]

And then at the very end they mentioned running it two additional runs of Valvoline Restore and Protect (a total) of 4 with a quick shot of a cleaner piston.

Runs that weren't in the video, those are future runs that no video has been made yet.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Such a flawed test running that conventional for 10k intervals.

The test should have been running the synthetic for 10k and the conventional for 5k - which is what virtually any manufacturer would have specced to begin with. I bet the results would have been much different running it this way.

Probably would have been different for the conventional run (much less varnish and deposits), but I think Valvoline wanted to show an apples-to-apples comparison. Some people not up on motor oil might actually run a conventional oil for 10K OCIs because they simply follow the owner's manual or oil life monitor.

 

[ZeeOSix]

200 hours × aver 50 mph

On the two 24 hour runs, even if at an average of 50 MPH (probably more like 35-40 MPH if simulated drive cycles and idle times included), it would be 24 x 50 MPH = 1,200 miles on each OCI run. So just 2,400 miles for the two runs. I'm surprised they didn't go longer to make each of the OCIs equivalent to a 5K mile OCI. They probably had the engines on a dyno stand and not back in the vehicles on a chassis dyno. Way too much work to put them back in the vehicles for just 48 hours of running.