Why not Valvoline Restore and Protect for average Joe OCIs?

@Urshurak776 , I don't need to do it, but I am just curious what product did you use for the piston soak, and did you soak it overnight or what? Thanks.
I used Berryman B12. Made sure each piston was centered as best i could. Put about 3 oz per cylinder. Barred the engine back and forth a little bit to distribute. Waited 4 hours, then manually hand cranked engine one full turn. Repeated the procedure 6 times over 24 hours. Yep, even got up in middle of night......

When I was done, I put towels around each spark plug opening and barred the engine over manually several times. Made sure all the liquid was out of each cylinder (boroscope.) Added an ounce of Marvel Mystery oil to each cylinder. Let it set for an hour or so. Popped plugs back in and let her rip. Took a little bit to get started, and when it did, lots of smoke! After a few minutes smoke went away. Drove it around the block a few times. Pulled into driveway and dumped the oil and filter. New oil and filter installed and new spark plugs installed. Worked absolutely fantastic.

Just a note, just checked the oil a few minutes ago and it's still firmly at the full line. It really worked well.
 
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Right, the crud is suspended in the oil that is being recirculated, loading the filter & lubricating with dirty oil. Dissolves? Into how small particles? The filter will not catch everything, especially sub 20 micron particles, & as it loads will slough off some already captured smaller particles. That carbon buildup is not just disappearing it is suspended so it can be removed by changing the oil. Valvoline had a more aggressive cleaning oil that cleaned amazingly, but people were leaving it in too long & plugging the filter up. This formulation is less aggressive to avoid that, but I would still want to get the crud that it did remove out ASAP

Valvoline learned from that experience with their Valvoline Blue Restore & formulated the oil to be less aggressive initially so it won't clog the filter.


IMO if one was previously using conventional oil, or unknown prior owner maintenance history, or an engine that has a known potential sludge/carbon build up problem then I would stick with the owner's manual "severe operation" schedule (3-5K OCI) for the initial 4 OCIs with Valvoline Restore and Protect.

However, I would be comfortable doing extendednOCI beyomd that.
Although Valvoline doesn't market Valvoline Restore and Protect for extended OCIs, they tested it on Ford 2.3L turbocharged GDI 4-cylinder ecoboost engine with 4 × 10K miles OCIs.


Most people would consider a turbocharged GDI engine to be a prime candidate for "severe" vs normal operation maintenance schedule.


Yet Valvoline did 10K miles OCIs (per Ford's owner manual) for their 500K challenge with their conventional & synthetic oils, and 10K OCIs for the Valvoline Restore and Protect tests.
 
Yet Valvoline did 10K miles OCIs (per Ford's owner manual) for their 500K challenge with their conventional & synthetic oils, and 10K OCIs for the Valvoline Restore and Protect tests.

Valvoline hasn’t done any 10k tests with Valvoline Restore and Protect. After doing the 500k runs with conventional and Valvoline synthetic then they did one single run with Valvoline Restore and Protect and it was around 150-200 hours of run time, not 10,000 miles worth.
 
Valvoline hasn’t done any 10k tests with Valvoline Restore and Protect. After doing the 500k runs with conventional and Valvoline synthetic then they did one single run with Valvoline Restore and Protect and it was around 150-200 hours of run time, not 10,000 miles worth.
How does any oil manufacture specify a mileage on oil? Are they assuming all engines are the same. They all have a ** and say follow your manual.

It’s all marketing.
 
What? They did 4 OCIs with Valvoline Restore and Protect. They tore the engines down twice, once after two runs and then again after two more.
That’s not what I recall from that video. I’m pretty sure they didn’t run 4 OCIs
I don’t even recall it being two intervals
I guess I should rewatch it 🤪
 
I started watching the video again and at the beginning they said that they ran Valvoline Restore and Protect for 150 hours

But then he shows 4 used oil analysis reports. I think what he is showing is samples taken all from the same single interval. It shows a sample at 24 hours, at 72 hours, at 96 hours and then at 144 hours

Later in the video when he shows the pistons, he mentions that it was run for several intervals but I don’t think these pistons came out of the 500k engines. I think these are the same pistons that he showed in an earlier video where he visited Valvoline to talk about Valvoline Restore and Protect
 
Also, I think the recent videos (with Lake) did indicate that Valvoline ran an additional two OCI with Valvoline Restore and Protect on the 500k engines (after the first two OCI). I have not re-watched to confirm this but it's what I recall.

So 500k engine teardowns with Gears and Gasoline guys
2x OCI w Valvoline Restore and Protect on both engines
Teardown with Gears and Gasoline guys
2x OCI w Valvoline Restore and Protect on both engines (??)
Parts inspection with Lake
 
Darn it, had to watch it again.

Two engines run to 500k. One syn, one conventional. Engines disassembled.

Both engines reassembled and both run with Valvoline Restore and Protect for two oci’s and disassembled.


And then at the very end they mentioned running it two additional runs of Valvoline Restore and Protect (a total) of 4 with a quick shot of a cleaner piston.
 
Darn it, had to watch it again.

Two engines run to 500k. One syn, one conventional. Engines disassembled.

Both engines reassembled and both run with Valvoline Restore and Protect for two oci’s and disassembled.



Such a flawed test running that conventional for 10k intervals.

The test should have been running the synthetic for 10k and the conventional for 5k - which is what virtually any manufacturer would have specced to begin with. I bet the results would have been much different running it this way.
 
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