Put a speed limiter on them and all foreign EVs are fully legal under NEV laws.
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Why EV Tariffs Won't Stop Chinese Cars
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Surprised every foreign EV made to date isn’t available as an Nev
You and @SC Maintenance haven't traveled much apparently. Chinese made vehicles-especially small pickups are over South America. Many South American countries have "favored trade Status" with China. The roads in many countries are terrible-and not once did a see a Chinese vehicle at the side of the road. Build status, I have observed seems to be on pare with everybody else. BYD motors is a huge Chinese manufacturer of vehicles.
I suspect that a 100% tariff will be pretty effective in preventing any EV of Chinese manufacture from gaining any sort of traction in this country. Throw in anti-dumping laws and the result must be a noncompetitive price.
I doubt that the hecho en Mexico gambit will be viable either, NAFTA or not, since NAFTA was clearly not intended to apply to third nation parties setting up shop in Mexico to evade US tariffs.
Throw in worsening Sino-American relations and I see little prospect for any Chinese EV to achieve any real penetration of what's for now our shrinking EV market.
I doubt that the hecho en Mexico gambit will be viable either, NAFTA or not, since NAFTA was clearly not intended to apply to third nation parties setting up shop in Mexico to evade US tariffs.
Throw in worsening Sino-American relations and I see little prospect for any Chinese EV to achieve any real penetration of what's for now our shrinking EV market.
I have been to Latin America although admittedly its been a while. Back then the most popular trucks were by far the Hilux and Isuzu. Is the Isuzu made in China? Could be, but its a Japanese company.
I know Great Wall was trying to make progress in the Australian Market?
I have not been to China, but I have helped with many pieces of industrial equipment being built to ship there. They often order without or have the QC systems removed the OEM's and machine builders tell me. All components must be dirt cheap.
Its not all junk, but it is culturally there way.
I don't buy cars anymore from the Legacy 3 either, FWIW. I may make an exception for a Wrangler. Its a Jeep thing
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What's next, after electric cars?
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There are still Hilux around but many Chinese trucks. I was there a year ago.I have been to Latin America although admittedly its been a while. Back then the most popular trucks were by far the Hilux and Isuzu. Is the Isuzu made in China? Could be, but its a Japanese company.
I know Great Wall was trying to make progress in the Australian Market?
I have not been to China, but I have helped with many pieces of industrial equipment being built to ship there. They often order without or have the QC systems removed the OEM's and machine builders tell me. All components must be dirt cheap.
Its not all junk, but it is culturally there way.
I don't buy cars anymore from the Legacy 3 either, FWIW. I may make an exception for a Wrangler. Its a Jeep thing
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There's nothing more useless and worthless in a situation like that than a BEV.
If that happens, I'll watch it on YouTube: "This video brought to you by Lockheed Martin..."
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Chinese vehicles might be good for lower South American standards and budget market (GM sells vehicles without SRS in SA) but I doubt they will fly in the US.
Tofu Dregs, Tofu Cars, I want nothing to do with these things.
Rivian and GM have dozens of recalls on their electrics, imagine what BYD will have? BYDs entry to the US will make Yugo and Fiat look reliable.
You know which Buick models are being imported by GM from China in to the states right? Do you also realize BYD is the world's largest E.V manufacturer? Please don't reference YouTube videos- they have zero credibility.
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They are doing poorly in Russia in winters. Cheap plastic etc.
Say a 100% tariff brings the price to $25k. That's a very affordable car today.
The Chinese have extremely different sensibilities than western nations.
The net effect is that if you remove the gatekeeper they attempt to commit the automotive version of the all drug Olympics where cost exceeds all other metrics.
As an example, lead based dyes in cinnamon, chili powder, turmeric and other spices is common in Eastern managed production that makes its way into us products. And that is something as stupid simple as a spice and they f it up, imagine all the stupid decisions that could occur in various aspects of a car?
Chinese can make anything to a standard but only if extreme prejudice is there, use all native management without direct guidance and liability and the decisions made are truly perplexing .
Nearly all Chinese products that are successfully provided to western interests and consumers have a command and control embedded western individual on location to manage quality and various other decisions.
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The point is moot, China is not planning to sell cars here except for the Volvo EV
It will be Mexico production for Mexico and South America
It will be Mexico production for Mexico and South America
Just as Airbus would never establish Chinese assembly of its airliners and the Chinese would never produce an airliner of their own design.
The US vehicle market is simply too large for the Chinese to ignore and there is a definite opportunity at the lower cost end of that market.
Every Chinese manufacturer has a US office despite not selling cars here.
Oh the less than 40 certainly do know more about communism than the older generations, they just know a different aspect of it and don't believe everything the media has to say (they don't watch the traditional media like their parents).
Everyone cares about job stability and they have beef about imports when it affects their jobs, but not when it doesn't. Some of them want cheap Nikes, some of them want US customer services, some of them want US software, etc. They also can't afford when the whole economy is US based because they would not be able to afford everything they need.
This is true, and in some way the same for other countries' product as well. The fact is you can't have both cheap price and high quality, and if you really want it you have to put in effort by hiring your own guys to supervise.
I have to say China is probably more extreme but Mexico, India, Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippine, etc all have similar problems.
If anything China may try to export via foreign companies' own brand and design and just test the water with that first. This way they can surely get the market but they won't make money. They can't have it both way yet, until they have established their reputation and afford to lose money for a while (the anti dumping law will prevent that).
