Why do lawyers always say to refuse a field sobriety tests? What if you dont drink?

A question worth asking.

Do you have or might you want a position that requires a clearance or background check, or a position of public trust?

Refusing a DUI test, resulting in being charged is enough to lose certain credentials, or prohibit being awarded a credential or clearance.

The wording on many applications is have you ever been charged with any of the following. The wording does not say have you ever been convicted.
 
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I'm FBI background checked, finger printed and I don't drink OR do illegal drugs. Retired DOC but now drive a school bus. BUT, I have bad ankle, bad knees and a bad hip. Arthritis and bone spurs. That being said there is no way I could pass a field sobriety test. So do I explain to the officer??? He ain't gunna care. So refuse the field sobriety test? Take it and fail? Either way I'm going to jail for nothing. I know I'll blow 0.00 BAC and they can take all the blood and urine, it'll be spotless. So by the "laws" I'm screwed. Will lose my school bus license. My only recourse is get a lawyer $$$$$$$$$ and try to clear my name. Your Thoughts Please.
 
I'm FBI background checked, finger printed and I don't drink OR do illegal drugs. Retired DOC but now drive a school bus. BUT, I have bad ankle, bad knees and a bad hip. Arthritis and bone spurs. That being said there is no way I could pass a field sobriety test. So do I explain to the officer??? He ain't gunna care. So refuse the field sobriety test? Take it and fail? Either way I'm going to jail for nothing. I know I'll blow 0.00 BAC and they can take all the blood and urine, it'll be spotless. So by the "laws" I'm screwed. Will lose my school bus license. My only recourse is get a lawyer $$$$$$$$$ and try to clear my name. Your Thoughts Please.

You are asked, before you begin, something to the effect of 'do you have any physical problems that might prevent you from performing this test'..

In your case, they would go with the eye test "HGN" or "Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus"

 
Gee, that's bad. Eight officers out of one million two hundred and eighty thousand in the country ?!?
That's 0.000625% !

Unacceptable. What sort of world do we live in ?!? The horror, the horror !
I'm not counting the barbie guy as it's going to make the statistics even worse.
Sure it's a low statistic but the fact that quite a number of sworn in police officers from the same department were caught and prosecuted says alot. This isn't the only time or case. Detroit had numerous officers shake down known drug dealers and confiscate their money and property for personal benefit. As law enforcement your officially sworn in to uphold the law not engage in criminal activity.
 
Recent events in NM show just how deep DWI "drunk driving" can be a business. Lawyers and officers teaming to make money from DUI. Officers driving impaired etc.
Smoky
 
IIRC there isn't any state where doing a field sobriety test is mandatory. I hear that their interpretation is highly subjective and basically a fishing expedition. Asking to read the ABCs backwards? Many people nowadays can't recite them anyway lol.

I think the safe thing to do is ask for the breathalyzer which is mandatory.

No breathalyzer? You go to the PD and have your car towed? Must be a slow night for the police.

You blow a 0.00 on the machine? Now they say you have drugs in your system and time to go to the hospital for blood work?
In GA by driving you have given implied consent to be tested. Refusal to do so will result in you losing your license for a year and getting a DUI anyway.. Know a couple people that have refused and they might as well have taken the test and took the DUI (were probably guilty).
 
From the moment they say "How ya doing tonight" an investigation is underway. You are not obligated to assist their investigation of you.
 
I am all for getting drunks off the road. But better tech exists
exactly what "tech" do you refer to?



and these type tests should be abandoned. Far too subjective.
Did anyone bother to look at the link and supporting links regarding SFSTs I posted a few pages back?
Again, some officers are actually certified in these tests. Others are not. That is at the discretion of the agency and the prosecution. Those who are certified typically have a very high conviction rate, a very low loss rate, and are rarely overturned in appeal.

Here's is the logic of SFSTs ... (EGN; walk and turn; one leg stand)
These tests are indicative of a probability of intoxication/impairment. (note: the % factors I state were accurate at the time of my last training recertification a few years ago; they may have changed a bit, but probably not by much).
- If you fail one test, and then take a chemical test, that one failed test is approximately 50% accurate in predicting intoxication.
- if you fail two tests, and then take a chemical test, those two tests are approximately 78% accurate in predicting intoxication.
- if you fail all three tests, and then take a chemical test, those three tests are approximately 92% accurate in predicting intoxication.
Each test has multiple elements, called "clues". Typically, three failed clues = test failure. These clues are not nearly as "subjective" as you imply.

A PBT (portable breath test) is not a SFST. It is a field sobriety test, but not a "standardized" test like those above. When properly maintained and administered, these are very accurate. But they are not generally considered worthy of condemnation on their own; they are a tool to show a propensity of intoxication, but not an absolution.

Other factors are also considered when collecting evidence for a conviction. (This is where BWCs - body worn cameras - are very helpful).
- are your eyes bloodshot
- have you soiled yourself
- is your balance unstable
- did you have to pull yourself from the vehicle
- what driving traits were observed prior to being pulled over (speeding; crossing the lines; erratic speed; failure to comply with traffic laws; etc)
- disheveled clothing/appearance
- slurred speech
- do you have difficulty following directives (stand over here ... keep your hands out of your pockets ... etc)
- do you have difficulty understanding simple spoken questions
- etc


Folks need to realize that there are, in most states, two means of charging for OWI. (aka DWI, etc).
- "per se" intoxication. This means your BAC (or THC, etc) was above some statutory predetermined level; proven or disproven by a blood or breath test.
- impaired intoxication. This means your physical abilities were inhibited by the intoxicant.
Just because you blow a .000 on a breath test, does not mean you're not intoxicated; you could be impaired by illicit drugs. In this case, a blood sample would be needed and could be combined with your failed SFSTs for conviction. Or, you could actually pass the SFSTs, but fail a breath test, and be charged with a "per se" violation. Many times, if you fail the SFSTs and also fail a chemical test, you will be charged with both.

As I have already explained, you can refuse a chemical test. Most likely the officer will be able to articulate a good PC affidavit based on the other observations and request a warrant for your blood sample; it will likely be issued.You can refuse a SFST, but that does not remove all the other PC factors listed above which, again, can be articulated in a PC request for a warrant for blood sample.

Refusals will (pretty much always) result in the BMV (DMV) suspending your license for a year. In many states, this is cumulative; more refusals = longer suspensions. This is often independent of any legal victory you may have in court, because there is no "right" to drive, and the implied consent doctrine is universal in every state. You do not have a "right" to have a driver's license; it's a privilege and that comes with unique restrictions which can be set by the State.


NONE of what I state should be considered legal advice to an individual. Rather, I'm telling folks what processes exist for a State to prosecute an OWI.
 
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So, can I just state "...my physical condition won't allow me to pass the FST, can we skip to the next one...", or will this play against me ?
 
So, can I just state "...my physical condition won't allow me to pass the FST, can we skip to the next one...", or will this play against me ?
I think less is more, I would say "I decline the field test, let's try the breathalyzer".
 
So, can I just state "...my physical condition won't allow me to pass the FST, can we skip to the next one...", or will this play against me ?
The officer likely will ask you to try, and note your comments and objection. You can certainly refuse, but that refusal will be noted.
If you are sober, and agree to try and have your objection noted, it likely would go well for you.
You can also offer to take the PBT. And could probably do the EGN, even if you cannot do the walk-turn or OLS.
As I said, there are a whole host of other observations which play into this, overall. It's called the "totality of circumstances".
I've had disabled folks pulled over for OWI; their inability didn't detract from the other means of confirming or denying sobriety.

Again, I'm not your lawyer; I'm not offering you legal advice. I'm only telling you how the State will likely react.
 
This discussion reminds me why my best friend from junior high on, who was a police officer, advised me to avoid ANY interaction with police officers. Some are good and ethical, others might be much less so. Then there's just sheer incompetence. I've been watching some videos on Youtube from The Civil Rights Lawyer, and a few other channels wherein police misconduct happens far too often.

The best scenario is to not have any interaction to begin with.
 
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