Why am I getting 11mpg?!

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Ok, I got the codes. 3-5-5. What the heck is that!? 55 is suppost to be what happens at the end...and there is no code 3!

I would imagine that you're missing ONE flash.

That would mean 13 ...MAP sensor ..which would definitely contribute to your mileage problem.
 
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Originally posted by ChrisW:
Just had a though, it was mentioned earlier, but perhaps the "winter blend" of gas is really taking a toll?

Yes, we do have the bad winter gas, however, the '67 mustang and the '01 dakota in my driveway both with big V8s run on the same gas and get WAY better mileage.


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Originally posted by ZR2RANDO:
If the rear end ratio is a 3.73 for example it will get less mileage/more towing power than a 3.07...Not sure about jeep ratios these are GM ratios...
If no other obvious problems are found maybe the vehicle setup is doing the best that it can..
Wintertime has always given me worse gas mileage than summer has anyway...
what rear end ratio does that jeep have anyway?


It's got 3.55's, which is standard on all with the automatic transmission.

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Originally posted by harper:
I noticed you mentioned the guage is not very accurate. The fuel guage has no bearing on fuel mileage. If you already know this ignore it, check the mileage by filling car to stop. Reset trip odometer or take note of mileage. When fuel is nearer to empty, the longer the run the more accurate the reading, refill the tank and note gallons used and mileage elapsed. Of course divide miles by gallons. If you know this ignore it, but some people use the guage as barometer which is very inaccurate and most cases not linear.

Yep...that's how I do it.
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Originally posted by Gary Allan:

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Ok, I got the codes. 3-5-5. What the heck is that!? 55 is suppost to be what happens at the end...and there is no code 3!

I would imagine that you're missing ONE flash.

That would mean 13 ...MAP sensor ..which would definitely contribute to your mileage problem.


After doing it about 15 times I can see that it might be 1-2-5-5, but definately not a 13. 12 is battery disconnected within the last 50 key cycles, however, I'm 99.9% sure that it wasn't.
 
ZmOz, pull off the vacuum line from the fuel pressure regulator and inspect it. If it's damp from fuel, you've found the problem; a ruptured diaphram in the FPR. If it's bad, raw fuel will be drawn into the intake manifold and ruin the MPG.
 
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Originally posted by TheLoneRanger:
ZmOz, pull off the vacuum line from the fuel pressure regulator and inspect it. If it's damp from fuel, you've found the problem; a ruptured diaphram in the FPR. If it's bad, raw fuel will be drawn into the intake manifold and ruin the MPG.

My fuel pressure regulator is located with the fuel pump in the tank.
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Originally posted by TheLoneRanger:
Sorry 'bout that.
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My 89 Cherokee has the FPR on the forward end of the fuel rail. I guess Jeep changed the location somewhere down the line.....


Yeah, they like to move things around like that so it's easier and cheaper to change.
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After doing it about 15 times I can see that it might be 1-2-5-5, but definately not a 13. 12 is battery disconnected within the last 50 key cycles, however, I'm 99.9% sure that it wasn't.

Well, you've reached the "limited" limit of the user accessable on board diagnostics. There are many more....
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If the sensor gives a code, shouldn't it set the Check engine light?

Not necessarily. Only serious emissions or operationally disruptive codes light the CEL.

For example ...as the system fuel system degrades over time (clogged, leaking injectors, weaker fuel, pump, etc.) the PCM registers the incidence of lean or rich conditions while in open loop. That is, although the speed density system doesn't change the pulse width according to the O2 sensor while in open loop ...it records the readings. XXX lean readings ...it effects a "correction" to compensate. These are called adaptive cells. These are only viewable with an OBDII scanner.

There are many others.....

Spend the $40 and get a pro to give you a read out..
 
ZmOZ I was reading all the posts looking for some mention of the catalytic converter. I see it was replaced before you got the truck. Can you be certain it is the right one? (size, flow characteristics etc.) A buddy of mine was really sad with his '95 F-250. He tows the same holiday trailer as I do and he was getting 6 mpg. After we talked a bit he decided to look at the cat (he's a motorhead and spent all his time looking under the hood). To make a long story even longer, a new cat doubled his gas mileage.
 
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Originally posted by poweguy:
ZmOZ I was reading all the posts looking for some mention of the catalytic converter. I see it was replaced before you got the truck. Can you be certain it is the right one? (size, flow characteristics etc.) A buddy of mine was really sad with his '95 F-250. He tows the same holiday trailer as I do and he was getting 6 mpg. After we talked a bit he decided to look at the cat (he's a motorhead and spent all his time looking under the hood). To make a long story even longer, a new cat doubled his gas mileage.

Looks like the right one to me, same size pipe as stock, looks like the stock cat that was on my old cherokee, and has an o2 sensor in the right place.
 
I've finally gone through a tank of gas since I replaced the fuel filter, spark plugs, wires, and distributor cap. I've managed to burn 14 gallons of gas in 162 miles!
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What could POSSIBLY be causing this??????? I think all those things I replaced had 200,000 miles on them...and they made NO difference! AHHHHHHHHH!!!
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Are you in an emissions state? You've got to be putting out excessive HC or CO or NOX with that kind of mileage (HC and CO surely). There has got to be a shop that has a Sun Interogator that should be able to pinpoint this problem.

Does your lockup converter engage (it should - THIS DOES generate a code ..too much difference between engine rpm and vss output)

I'd start looking for a pressureized leak. For that matter ..a static one.
 
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Originally posted by Gary Allan:
Are you in an emissions state? You've got to be putting out excessive HC or CO or NOX with that kind of mileage (HC and CO surely). There has got to be a shop that has a Sun Interogator that should be able to pinpoint this problem.

Does your lockup converter engage (it should - THIS DOES generate a code ..too much difference between engine rpm and vss output)

I'd start looking for a pressureized leak. For that matter ..a static one.


Yeah, I've got to get it tested this month actually. I'm going to fail...
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What if maybe the wrong weight of gear oil was put in the diffs? Could that make this much of a difference?
 
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Originally posted by ZmOz:
Yeah, I've got to get it tested this month actually. I'm going to fail...
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What if maybe the wrong weight of gear oil was put in the diffs? Could that make this much of a difference? [/QB]

only if you've got ice cold 600Wt in them.

-Bret
 
Alright guys, just a little update. I reset the computer after changing the spark plugs didn't help. Mileage went from 11 to 16.5!!!!
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I also took a trip up to the mountain yesterday, 170 mile round trip - 25mpg!!!
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That's with 3 200lb+ men, 2 dogs, lots of beer, and going up a mountain in 3rd gear!
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That's with 3 200lb+ men, 2 dogs, lots of beer, and going up a mountain in 3rd gear!

See? I told you having a relief tube that drained into the tank would help
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Just keep a generous supply of beer on board and drive around a good bit (swap drivers if need be) ..you may make the "Shell with Platformate" commercial look like they're wasting fuel.
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