Which is better, Fram or Purolator?

[Big Jim]

I already know the answer to this question, but I've observed something disturbing recently.

Pep Boys added Fram a few months ago (or perhaps thay started greatly expanding Fram). Their ads in the Sunday paper the last few weeks have oil filter specials with Fram being priced higher than Purolator.

Pep Boys is going through a reinvention of themselves with a bigger push on service and they are advertising "Grand Re-Opening" here in my area. They are changing a lot of products and rearranging floor space.

The thought occured to me to say something to Pep Boys about the Fram vs Purolator but almost as soon as the thought came another one came saying "don't bother, it is after all, Pep Boys".

The other thought that comes to mind is that perhaps something is actually happening to Purolator since they were bought out by Fram's parent, Honeywell, a few months ago.

Does anyone have some insight here?

 

[Vstrom]

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Originally posted by Big Jim:
The other thought that comes to mind is that perhaps something is actually happening to Purolator since they were bought out by Fram's parent, Honeywell, a few months ago.

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Don't think so........

Clarcor owns Purolator Filter. They also own Baldwin and Hastings.

[ March 08, 2005, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: Vstrom ]

 

[Marlin]

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Yea that freaked me out when I read that. Searched google and saw nothing as well.

 

[ruking77]

Sorry, I can't help you in the who owns who department. I think of oil filters (have for over 38 years of driving) and 694,000 miles of synthetic oil use as commodity filters. I would buy on price. I currently use 2 dollar AC delco filters. Two dollar Supertech filters. And because they are a weird size 5 dollar Mann filters. In the pass I have run a Toyota Landcruiser 14 years and app 250,000 miles on PH8A FRAM oil filters with 15,000 OCI's. I currently run 15,000 mile OCI on all but a TDI, which I run on Delvac One 5w40 20,000 to 25,000 miles.

So if Fram is more buy Purolator, Champion, AC Delco etc.

[ March 08, 2005, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: ruking77 ]

 

[Big Jim]

I do my best to avoid Fram. It seems to be getting harder and harder to do with Fram becoming the main line sold by more and more places. Wal Mart is phasing out Morotcraft and Pep Boys now has much more Fram than Purolator. K-Mart hasn't had anything other than Fram for some time.

Now that you mention it, I can't find anything about Purolator being sold either. I must have confused it with something else. I should have done some research before posting. Sorry about that.

 

[edwardh1]

whatever happenned to Sear's old good better best products in 50s and 60s

now it cheap and cheap

 

[axjohn]

RUKING77:
"And because they are a weird size 5 dollar Mann filters"

What is your filter number? What vehicle are you running? Mann's are OEM on my Saab 900.

3/4-16 thread, 8-11 bypass, so I'm always looking for alternatives to my list of currently used filters (Fl1a, FL400s, PL14670, L14670, 1515, 1516, 51515, 51516, PL 20195, L20195, PL10241, L10241, etc!

 

[Triple_Se7en]

In the pass I have run a Toyota Landcruiser 14 years and app 250,000 miles on PH8A FRAM oil filters with 15,000 OCI's. I currently run 15,000 mile OCI on all but a TDI, which I run on Delvac One 5w40 20,000 to 25,000 miles.
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I've been reading many posts like this.

I've come to the conclusion that with normal 4K OCIs on dino, there's nothing wrong with Frams unless you have a sludge maker or use heavy-weight oils.

Yeah... there are better filters out there, but if you maintain your oil regularly & keep the engine relatively clean with today's thinner oils, I don't get all the Fram-bashing when so many posters who used Frams for multi-hundred Ks are not reporting problems.

[ March 09, 2005, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: Triple_Se7en ]

 

[kevm14]

But on the other hand, shouldn't we consider if maybe it would have been possible for that Land Cruiser to have covered 250k with NO oil filtration at all?

 

[Drew99GT]

This is on Pureolator's website:

Purolator is a brand of ArvinMeritor Light Vehicle Aftermarket, a global automotive aftermarket, a global automotive group providing exhaust, filter, and ride control products to its customers. In North America, ArvinMeritor Light Vehicle Aftermarket markets its products under the Arvin, Gabriel, Maremont, Supreme Performance and Purolator brand names, as well as various private labels, to the full range of aftermarket customers including retailers, distributors, and installers. ArvinMeritor Light Vehicle Aftermarket is headquartered in Brentwood, TN and is a division of ArvinMeritor, Inc.

 

[wiswind]

Reading my 2004 Clarcor Annual report.....

Clarcor DOES manufacture and sell Purolator filters......."Industrial / environmental filters....

Clarcor Engine / Mobile filtration product brands are Baldwin, Hastings, and Clark.
They also manufacture for a number of "private label" accounts
Purolator automotive oil / air filters are NOT made by Clarcor.

However, it is easy to see how the confusion can come about....I had to read it over a few times myself...
I believe that this may have happened through aquisitions....

 

[Steve Foley]

Big Jim, After the trouble I've had with Fram, I can only suggest O.E. filters. Upper engine noise caused by weak anti-flow-back valves in 3 different brands, and one really expensive Bosch, drove me to the factory installed brand. With the advice of the great guys on this site, I got immediate relief from noise and its been 6+ oil changes since with no noise whatsoever.
SteveF

 

[99]

Purolator.