He's probably on a trip in that nice big Mercury Grand Marquis of his, enjoying that cushy ride and the peace of mind that comes from a crankcase full of Pennzoil Platinum.
Where's Johnny?
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I never said I liked Bernie & Mosley... But I do like the sport and IMO it's what racing truly should be. 13K RPM and speeds over 300KPH (almost 200MPH) with varying tracks, fuel, tire, weight, design restrictions. It all comes down to the driver IMO.
It also demands full attention as so many things happen on the tracks and its critical timing that can win/loose a race.
Sorry but I'm not a beer drinkin' guy who watches cars go in circles for hours to see some fire or a death simply so I have an excuse to be with friends and have conversation.
Then they "Sell out" the name Nascar and stick it on every product from here to Idaho (no offense Idaho-ians) and make people think that the Battery or the Oil they purchased which is the "official choice of Nascar" is somehow of superior quality.
You see these, IMO, Hillbillies driving around with Nascar parts thinking they are doing right by their vehicles when the truth is they are only doing right by the marketing companies that plaster "Nascar" all over khrap.
Like a beer drinkin' cult if you ask me...
Oh and don't even get me started on Dale Earnhardt stickers on the backs of cars.
I mean so he was a great "Circle" driver who lost his life... GET OVER IT! I'm sure they can find another great "Circle" driver to replace him.
Heck put some Women on the track they seem to be good at going in circles most times. My mom would be the first one that could probably replace Dale E.
You don't see people putting stickers on their cars when people die or get seriously injured in crashes in Formula 1 and they have way better spectacular crashes than "Circle" drivers.
Again... To each their own I guess, Nascar and their "Sell Out"-edness make me sick.
It also demands full attention as so many things happen on the tracks and its critical timing that can win/loose a race.
Sorry but I'm not a beer drinkin' guy who watches cars go in circles for hours to see some fire or a death simply so I have an excuse to be with friends and have conversation.
Then they "Sell out" the name Nascar and stick it on every product from here to Idaho (no offense Idaho-ians) and make people think that the Battery or the Oil they purchased which is the "official choice of Nascar" is somehow of superior quality.
You see these, IMO, Hillbillies driving around with Nascar parts thinking they are doing right by their vehicles when the truth is they are only doing right by the marketing companies that plaster "Nascar" all over khrap.
Oh and don't even get me started on Dale Earnhardt stickers on the backs of cars.
I mean so he was a great "Circle" driver who lost his life... GET OVER IT! I'm sure they can find another great "Circle" driver to replace him.
Heck put some Women on the track they seem to be good at going in circles most times. My mom would be the first one that could probably replace Dale E.
You don't see people putting stickers on their cars when people die or get seriously injured in crashes in Formula 1 and they have way better spectacular crashes than "Circle" drivers.
Again... To each their own I guess, Nascar and their "Sell Out"-edness make me sick.
You seem to know a lot about NASCAR for not having watched it or being a fan. Or at least you think you know a lot.
BTW, the driver sits in the car in F1 and they play "follow the leader" around a road circuit. Big deal. Minimal passing, if any. The only thing remotely interesting about F1 is the standing start. After the first lap, boring.
Then you go can back to your videos of Mosely hosting orgies dressed as a Nazi and clips of Bernie contemplating how he can continue his personal dictatorship and the further demise of F1.
Once you strip away all the computer controlled functions on F1 cars, then you'll get back to realistic competition with cars that require driving, not simply steering.
And if you add up all of the deaths and mayhem since Senna, it's likely you'll find F1 has been more deadly and resulted in more lost limbs than NASCAR.
And the typical F1 snobbery has still failed to find Johnny.
BTW, the driver sits in the car in F1 and they play "follow the leader" around a road circuit. Big deal. Minimal passing, if any. The only thing remotely interesting about F1 is the standing start. After the first lap, boring.
Then you go can back to your videos of Mosely hosting orgies dressed as a Nazi and clips of Bernie contemplating how he can continue his personal dictatorship and the further demise of F1.
Once you strip away all the computer controlled functions on F1 cars, then you'll get back to realistic competition with cars that require driving, not simply steering.
And if you add up all of the deaths and mayhem since Senna, it's likely you'll find F1 has been more deadly and resulted in more lost limbs than NASCAR.
And the typical F1 snobbery has still failed to find Johnny.
...so what is the appeal of nascar? I understand you to say that compared to F1 there is more passing and 'driving' as opposed to 'steering'. These seem to be good things, but it's only comparing one thing I don't understand with another. What, in your opinion, is the appeal of nascar. Not as it compares to other things, but in and of itself.
greenaccord02 What said:
I said the stats were wrong, from both sides, and they are...
StevieC: "13K RPM and speeds over 300KPH (almost 200MPH)"
Lets try 18K RPM and speeds over 200MPH.
dkryan: "...they play "follow the leader" around a road circuit. Big deal. Minimal passing, if any."
Clearly the observation of one who hasn't seen what's been going on this season.
dkryan: "Once you strip away all the computer controlled functions on F1 cars, then you'll get back to realistic competition with cars that require driving, not simply steering."
Again, not even close to being accurate. Electronic "driver aids" are old news.
dkryan: "...add up all of the deaths and mayhem since Senna, it's likely you'll find F1 has been more deadly and resulted in more lost limbs than NASCAR."
Statistics are clearly not the poster's thing. The total death toll in Formula One, since 1 May 1994 (the date of Ayrton Senna's death), is ZERO. Deaths in Nascar since that date? Well, let's see, there were Adam Petty, Kenny Irwin, Tony Roper, Dale Earnhardt, Blaise Alexander...
Point being? If you're going to debate something, at least have a clue just what the heck you're talking about. Otherwise, you just sound like an uninformed twit. Which tends to explain these asinine F1 versus Nascar hissy fits in the first place...
StevieC: "13K RPM and speeds over 300KPH (almost 200MPH)"
Lets try 18K RPM and speeds over 200MPH.
dkryan: "...they play "follow the leader" around a road circuit. Big deal. Minimal passing, if any."
Clearly the observation of one who hasn't seen what's been going on this season.
dkryan: "Once you strip away all the computer controlled functions on F1 cars, then you'll get back to realistic competition with cars that require driving, not simply steering."
Again, not even close to being accurate. Electronic "driver aids" are old news.
dkryan: "...add up all of the deaths and mayhem since Senna, it's likely you'll find F1 has been more deadly and resulted in more lost limbs than NASCAR."
Statistics are clearly not the poster's thing. The total death toll in Formula One, since 1 May 1994 (the date of Ayrton Senna's death), is ZERO. Deaths in Nascar since that date? Well, let's see, there were Adam Petty, Kenny Irwin, Tony Roper, Dale Earnhardt, Blaise Alexander...
Point being? If you're going to debate something, at least have a clue just what the heck you're talking about. Otherwise, you just sound like an uninformed twit. Which tends to explain these asinine F1 versus Nascar hissy fits in the first place...
I didn't realize this lap racing stuff had such class rivalries.
It should be noted that enjoy and appreciate other kinds of racing and motorsports that don't involve repetition.
It should be noted that enjoy and appreciate other kinds of racing and motorsports that don't involve repetition.
Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
I didn't realize this lap racing stuff had such class rivalries.
Unfortunately, it does...
The ironic thing is that this garbage doesn't exist between those who are actually involved in the various forms of competition.
I didn't realize this lap racing stuff had such class rivalries.
Unfortunately, it does...
The ironic thing is that this garbage doesn't exist between those who are actually involved in the various forms of competition.
Originally Posted By: dkryan
You seem to know a lot about NASCAR for not having watched it or being a fan. Or at least you think you know a lot.
BTW, the driver sits in the car in F1 and they play "follow the leader" around a road circuit. Big deal. Minimal passing, if any. The only thing remotely interesting about F1 is the standing start. After the first lap, boring.
Then you go can back to your videos of Mosely hosting orgies dressed as a Nazi and clips of Bernie contemplating how he can continue his personal dictatorship and the further demise of F1.
Once you strip away all the computer controlled functions on F1 cars, then you'll get back to realistic competition with cars that require driving, not simply steering.
And if you add up all of the deaths and mayhem since Senna, it's likely you'll find F1 has been more deadly and resulted in more lost limbs than NASCAR.
And the typical F1 snobbery has still failed to find Johnny.
I have friends who live in Kentucky and are addicted to this nonsense called Nascar racing. But then again they are from Kentucky so I guess it fits.
You seem to know a lot about NASCAR for not having watched it or being a fan. Or at least you think you know a lot.
BTW, the driver sits in the car in F1 and they play "follow the leader" around a road circuit. Big deal. Minimal passing, if any. The only thing remotely interesting about F1 is the standing start. After the first lap, boring.
Then you go can back to your videos of Mosely hosting orgies dressed as a Nazi and clips of Bernie contemplating how he can continue his personal dictatorship and the further demise of F1.
Once you strip away all the computer controlled functions on F1 cars, then you'll get back to realistic competition with cars that require driving, not simply steering.
And if you add up all of the deaths and mayhem since Senna, it's likely you'll find F1 has been more deadly and resulted in more lost limbs than NASCAR.
And the typical F1 snobbery has still failed to find Johnny.
I have friends who live in Kentucky and are addicted to this nonsense called Nascar racing. But then again they are from Kentucky so I guess it fits.
Originally Posted By: Saturn_Fan
Permanently banned. Got caught using Mobil 1.
I kid, I kid.
That's my first reaction as well, maybe he talked trash about a sponsor and got banned.
Hope this isn't the case.
Permanently banned. Got caught using Mobil 1.
I kid, I kid.
That's my first reaction as well, maybe he talked trash about a sponsor and got banned.
Hope this isn't the case.
He's probably watching this thread and holding out from posting in any thread to see what is said?
Wish I was that important to have a 2 page thread asking where I am. LOL
We would ask if you went away for a while... Wouldn't we guys?
Originally Posted By: StevieC
I have friends who live in Kentucky and are addicted to this nonsense called Nascar racing. But then again they are from Kentucky so I guess it fits.
Now Stevie, if you would make that comment about a group of people whom you claim are your "friends," I guess they should count themselves fortunate that you live so far away.
I have friends who live in Kentucky and are addicted to this nonsense called Nascar racing. But then again they are from Kentucky so I guess it fits.
Now Stevie, if you would make that comment about a group of people whom you claim are your "friends," I guess they should count themselves fortunate that you live so far away.
I do agree that NASCAR is really boring. But being at the track to watch, hear & feel cars going by at nearly 200mph is awesome. I'll never remember the IMSA (or was it F-1?) car that buzzed by me as I was in the front row in Daytona in early '93.
It's a great guy sport: sit, watch, drink beer, watch fast cars. What's NOT to like about NASCAR?
It's a great guy sport: sit, watch, drink beer, watch fast cars. What's NOT to like about NASCAR?
Originally Posted By: dkryan
Originally Posted By: StevieC
I have friends who live in Kentucky and are addicted to this nonsense called Nascar racing. But then again they are from Kentucky so I guess it fits.
Now Stevie, if you would make that comment about a group of people whom you claim are your "friends," I guess they should count themselves fortunate that you live so far away.
They actually live close to you... They are very good friends. We visit each other at least 2 times a year. I just don't get the "Nascar" addiction.
Originally Posted By: StevieC
I have friends who live in Kentucky and are addicted to this nonsense called Nascar racing. But then again they are from Kentucky so I guess it fits.
Now Stevie, if you would make that comment about a group of people whom you claim are your "friends," I guess they should count themselves fortunate that you live so far away.
They actually live close to you... They are very good friends. We visit each other at least 2 times a year. I just don't get the "Nascar" addiction.
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