Where is polyethylene grease found?

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Originally Posted By: Tempest
Originally Posted By: IH8mush

Its a "Plastic" grease,

"UHMWPE is used in a diverse range of applications. These include can and bottle handling machine parts, moving parts on weaving machines, bearings, gears,"

Ford has some of this Acronom grease (lets call it)
for drive line splines

Poly the new "Moly" classic

Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene is NOT a grease. It's plastic.


Yes it is and they put it in grease, hence the "Plastic Grease"
 
Originally Posted By: erock
Originally Posted By: Tempest
Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene is NOT a grease. It's plastic.


Wasting your breath, man.

I had a whole reply typed up with the differences between LDPE, HDPE, HMWPE, UHMWPE, PTFE. Then I deleted the whole thing. No point, really.


* Ultra high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE)
* Ultra low molecular weight polyethylene (ULMWPE or PE-WAX)
* High molecular weight polyethylene (HMWPE)
* High density polyethylene (HDPE)
* High density cross-linked polyethylene (HDXLPE)
* Cross-linked polyethylene (PEX or XLPE)
* Medium density polyethylene (MDPE)
* Linear low density polyethylene (LLDPE)
* Low density polyethylene (LDPE)
* Very low density polyethylene (VLDPE)
 
Originally Posted By: IH8mush
Yes it is and they put it in grease, hence the "Plastic Grease"


Source?

There are plenty of greases that use LDPE. I haven't seen one that uses UHMWPE. It doesn't seem like it would make sense given the molecular structure of UHMWPE.




Back to the topic at hand, it seems like most of the places that "polyethylene grease" is spec'd are old references, prior to the popular use of PTFE. Given the similar function of LDPE and PTFE, I suspect PTFE has essentially replaced LDPE for lubricating purposes.

Although I have been known to use a piece of grocery bag when there's no teflon thread tape handy
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Originally Posted By: IH8mush

* Ultra high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE)
* Ultra low molecular weight polyethylene (ULMWPE or PE-WAX)
* High molecular weight polyethylene (HMWPE)
* High density polyethylene (HDPE)
* High density cross-linked polyethylene (HDXLPE)
* Cross-linked polyethylene (PEX or XLPE)
* Medium density polyethylene (MDPE)
* Linear low density polyethylene (LLDPE)
* Low density polyethylene (LDPE)
* Very low density polyethylene (VLDPE)



Yes, fantastic job copying and pasting from wikipedia.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyethylene
 
Originally Posted By: erock
Originally Posted By: IH8mush
Yes it is and they put it in grease, hence the "Plastic Grease"


Source?

There are plenty of greases that use LDPE. I haven't seen one that uses UHMWPE. It doesn't seem like it would make sense given the molecular structure of UHMWPE.




Back to the topic at hand, it seems like most of the places that "polyethylene grease" is spec'd are old references, prior to the popular use of PTFE. Given the similar function of LDPE and PTFE, I suspect PTFE has essentially replaced LDPE for lubricating purposes.

Although I have been known to use a piece of grocery bag when there's no teflon thread tape handy
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Plastic greases,

This "Poly" grease Is what I am calling Plastic grease, all these Aycronoms

Polyehtylene is a a plastic so I call it plastic grease,

And here is a source

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Chemistry and Materials Science
Chemistry and Technology of Fuels and Oils
Volume 8, Number 10, 805-807, DOI: 10.1007/BF00717083

Information
Corrosion inhibitors in plastic greases (review of foreign patents)

Yu. P. Kosarskaya, Yu. N. Shekhter and I. G. Fuks


Looks like this FUKS dude and his pals call it plastic grease to,
 
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
I have ordered 4 14oz tubes of Jax lubricants Poly-plate EP-2. Pick it up Friday. I'll let you'all know how it goes...

Thanks everyone!


Very good Silverbullet, sounds like some neat grease, await your full report,

Good to know its available in small quantities,
 
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Pick 'em up tomorrow, hopefully.

Yep, I had to buy four. No big deal - I'll be able to sell the extras on the Lincoln forum where I hang out because we can't find another source.
 
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
Pick 'em up tomorrow, hopefully.

Yep, I had to buy four. No big deal - I'll be able to sell the extras on the Lincoln forum where I hang out because we can't find another source.



Thats pretty good, some specialty lubes are only sold in bulk, just curious how much $ for the 4 tubes ?

Also you may find other applications to apply it,
 
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
I have ordered 4 14oz tubes of Jax lubricants Poly-plate EP-2. Pick it up Friday. I'll let you'all know how it goes...

Thanks everyone!

I'm not seeing where this grease contains polyethylene??
 
Originally Posted By: Tempest
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
I have ordered 4 14oz tubes of Jax lubricants Poly-plate EP-2. Pick it up Friday. I'll let you'all know how it goes...

Thanks everyone!

I'm not seeing where this grease contains polyethylene??


Well you have to go by the name tempest, if it where a Moly-plate EP2 you would have to think it has moly in it wouldnt you,
?

I should look but this may be a JAX proprietary grease,

[PDF]
BEHNKE LUBRICANTS INC
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
JAX POLY-PLATE EP SERIES. Chemical Name. Chemical Family. Lubricating grease. Hydrocarbon. PROPRIETARY FORMULA. Residual oils, petroleum, solvent-refined ...


Yep Proprietary formula, so Tempest if you really want to know what sort of "Poly" the Jax dudes are mixing into the grease ???

Maybee see if they have a confidentiality contract you could sign, to get to know the "Trade Secret"

Who knows,? these "Special" greases are often, Intellectual property,

But just going by the name, Poly plate, it would have to have some sort of "Poly" in it, one would think,,,
 
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But just going by the name, Poly plate, it would have to have some sort of "Poly" in it, one would think,,,


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Polyurea, Polyurethane, co-polymer.... Take your pick??

Poly means more than one. Could be referring to ANYTHING.
 
Originally Posted By: Tempest
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But just going by the name, Poly plate, it would have to have some sort of "Poly" in it, one would think,,,


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Polyurea, Polyurethane, co-polymer.... Take your pick??

Poly means more than one. Could be referring to ANYTHING.


Poly wanna a Cracker ?

Yes but it fits the bill for what Silver bullet was looking for,
by description, good characteristics when cold

So what sort of "Poly" ?
 
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
According to Ford this is what is needed for power window tracks to keep them from binding up over time and in cold weather.


"better low-temperature performance than lithium complex greases"

From the description about this grease from JAX

This is what I mean by fitting the description of Why Silverbullet was looking for,
 
I found this UK MSDS for Poly-Plate

http://www.indlub.co.uk/pdfs/Poly-Plate EP-2 EU MSDS 120108.pdf

Quote:
Calcium sulfonate greases are made by converting a fluid detergent that contains amorphous calcium carbonate to a grease containing calcite particles. Because of the calcite particles’ lubricating properties, performance additives containing sulfur, phosphorous or zinc may not be needed. This is why some calcium sulfonate-based greases are attractive to the food industry.


Looks like it's a calcium complex grease.

Their Magna-Plate must contain lava and the Halo-Guard angels.
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Ed
 
After some research I've found some TSB's that recommend a polyurea based grease for window track lube.
Just grease it. After all it's not the space shuttle.
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