Where do the Korean brands now stand?

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I recently purchased Korean made tires for my car. Got a set of Hankook Ventus V12 summer tires in 275/35/20 size.

They were raved about on the BMW forums, and they are designed for a heavier vehicle like the 7 series sedans and my car. Excellent performance yet very quiet and smooth riding, which is a bit unusual in a very high speed rated tire.
 
^ I have those same tires, except in 255/45/18.
Only complaint I have is they are wearing like hot glue.
Excellent performance though. Really sticky when hot.
 
Well I haven't got enough miles on them to tell anything about wear. Frankly I'm not expecting much. They were ridiculously cheaper than my first choice, Pilot Sports.

But they do hook up well!
 
Yeah, I'm well aware of the disconnect between brand, model, and/or country of origin.

I'm gonna need a new set of rubber before the wet season begins in earnest.

Among those on my list is a German brand tire--made in Brazil. A Japanese brand tire--that could come from Japan or India. An American tire--that comes from Mexico. Another Japanese tire--from the U.S. And finally, fully Korean tire.

Standardized manufacturing processes and things like ISO certification say that none of the above should matter.

So, my question is whether the engineering is up to snuff. Are corners being cut in the design? Does the cost difference come from the product itself, or the other cost components?

I don't drive as much as I used to, so I'm willing to trade some ultimate performance for more modest cost, as long as the quality isn't sacrificed as well.

I don't believe that it is, but tires are longer-term purchases, and switching them prematurely is a hassle.
 
I see I am not the only one who remembers when "Japanese" = cheap junk! It took a very long time for that to change.

But what I noticed was that this was replaced by "Korean" = cheap junk - and that didn't seem to last very long.

Now It's "Chinese" = cheap junk - and I predict that will change even faster.

Last prediction: "India" = cheap junk, followed by another country.
 
Originally Posted By: Carmudgeon
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Standardized manufacturing processes and things like ISO certification say that none of the above should matter.

I don't remember if it was here or on a Dodge Dakota forum, but I remember someone posting that you could make [excrement]and have it ISO-certified as long as you follow the documentation process....
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Originally Posted By: CapriRacer
I see I am not the only one who remembers when "Japanese" = cheap junk! It took a very long time for that to change.

But what I noticed was that this was replaced by "Korean" = cheap junk - and that didn't seem to last very long.

Now It's "Chinese" = cheap junk - and I predict that will change even faster.

Last prediction: "India" = cheap junk, followed by another country.


Yup. And the irony in all this is that Demming is the guy who taught the Japanese everything they needed to know. Too bad we weren't interested.....
 
It seems as though Korean tire mfg's have addressed some of the issues tire customers have been complaining about:

1) Continuing balancing issues
2) Radial Pull
3) Tires that ware unevenly
4) Reasonable price

Now, I am not saying that all of these issues(or issues that I didn't mention) have all been completely addressed but, I have been happier with Korean tires thus far than I have ever been with any tire that I ever bought from Good/Year over the last 35 years!
 
Originally Posted By: Char Baby
It seems as though Korean tire mfg's have addressed some of the issues tire customers have been complaining about:


2) Radial Pull


Yeah, but they now build that one right into the car...


;-)
 
Our Kumho's don't impress me. They're loud, the treadwear has been subpar, and they need constant balancing.

On the plus side, they're better than the Firestone and Goodyear junk out there.
 
What I see going on with the Korean brands is the problem of supplying tires to a car manufacturer (OEM).

Each vehicle manufacturer has its own idea of what they want a tire to do - as opposed to what a consumer wants a tire to do. Lots of the tire complaints on new vehicles stems from the specs the vehicle manufacturer has. The Korean tire manufacturers need to "swim in the pool" for a while to figure out how best to deal with this situation. I can say without reservation that every tire manufacturer struggles with this - some are better than others at dealing with it.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Which Kumhos are they? As with every tire brand, Kumho makes some tires that are dramatically better than others.


I haven't found the Michelins that aren't any good yet.
 
Buying tires is a microcosm of the car buying experience.

It's very hard to gain a true perspective on the long term characteristics of the product, and the opportunity for evaluation is limited to a narrow window that probably isn't representative of the ownership experience.

Added to the fact that most of the general public tends to focus on one or two specific attributes, and is generally ill-equipped to perform a balanced assessment of the product as a whole.

Dealers can be of little or no help; they're mainly out to make a sale. I recently had a dealer victimize a relative who needed to replace a damaged tire, by selling her the wrong model that didn't match the others, and a warranty (on all four!) on top of it, completely contradicting general wisdom and my specific admonition. But the counterman was really nice.

Objective testing by independent third parties like publications is difficult to pull off, to the point where one rag abandoned all attempts a long time ago, and such testing that still does occur is few and far between.

So, we're left with a lot of word of mouth, and a spin of the roulette wheel. Good thing this isn't a frequent requirement.

As for me, I'll have to crunch the numbers. I suspect the difference between the Koreans and the other candidates won't amount to a significant enough sum. Although Michelin makes a quality tire (even if some are only mediocre performers), they're too rich for my blood.
 
Originally Posted By: cchase
Our Kumho's don't impress me. They're loud, the treadwear has been subpar, and they need constant balancing.

On the plus side, they're better than the Firestone and Goodyear junk out there.



I could say that about every brand.. including some michelin(oem)tires

You cant blanket statement tires.. There are huge differences between models and about the only thing you can say is most OEM tires are mediocre or worse.. in any brand
**there are some exceptions.
 
Originally Posted By: Rand
Originally Posted By: cchase
Our Kumho's don't impress me. They're loud, the treadwear has been subpar, and they need constant balancing.

On the plus side, they're better than the Firestone and Goodyear junk out there.



I could say that about every brand.. including some michelin(oem)tires

You cant blanket statement tires.. There are huge differences between models and about the only thing you can say is most OEM tires are mediocre or worse.. in any brand
**there are some exceptions.


I only spoke of my experience with Kumho tires.

As far as Firestone/Goodyear, when I see a set that wears well and evenly and balances reliably, I'll change my statement.
 
I just got in a set of Nokian Hakka 7 snow tires (with the factory "bear claw" studs) and they are made in Russia. Apparently this is a very new plant and Nokian is very popular in Russia. Overall the tire looks well made, drives without any apparent balance/pull issues and as long as it performs the way it should on snow/ice I'll be satisfied.
 
Originally Posted By: leeharvey418
Yeah, my WR G2 SUVs were made in Russia too. I'm reserving judgement for now...


The Hakka R snow tires for my Cruze came from Russia also.

Gee, I wonder why Nokian snow tires are popular in Russia...
 
I can't fault Nokian for making tires in a country with dirt-cheap labor, but from what I had read they were only supposed to be producing their lower-priced offerings there. I paid nigh on two bills each for tires made in a low cost country...
 
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