Where did all the Ford Excursions go?

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The Excursion can't fit in most garages, and most of them were either junked 10 years ago with Cash for Clunkers, and the ones that didn't have rusted to pieces by now.

Surviving Diesel Excursions command 5 figures even today, they can go for 10-15k or more, while gassers are almost worthless and go for around $2-3k, maybe $5000 for the best mint-condition needs-nothing like-new example.

Originally Posted by JLTD
Originally Posted by InhalingBullets
Originally Posted by JLTD
Ford is still building them… They all have the eco-boost engine now and a rated for 24 highway… Quite a difference from the old ones

I believe you are thinking of the EXPEDITION...



D'OH!
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You're right.


The Excursion was replaced with a LWB Expedition, and later on they added a LWB Navigator.
 
Originally Posted by CKN
Originally Posted by 02SE
They were actually pretty popular initially, but the vigilante green movement with help in no small part from the mainstream media, demonized them for being an 'obscenely large' SUV. That in reality was the same size as millions of pickups running around the country.



No-they were not the same size. They were the biggest personal use SUV on the road at the time. Maybe they were the same length of an F250-since they used that truck's frame. But back when the Excursions were manufactured-F250s were not really personal use vehicles-unless you were towing.


I owned one. They are the size of an F250 supercab with a cab height shell. They are smaller than a crew cab long bed, and certainly a crew cab long bed Dually.

3/4 ton trucks were and are used all the time for personal use.

They were demonized by simpletons masquerading as the green movement, and so-called journalists.

They are still prized for their people hauling and towing ability.
 
Good for business when your accountant could write off high tonnage vehicles as business expense.
Thus all the GYM owners driving Hummer H1..

Like I said whats worse:

a Little Pathfinder or 4 runner V6 getting 16 MPG gas or the Expo getting 16mpg diesel?

Now you see where the REAL shame should be placed.
 
Originally Posted by 02SE
Originally Posted by CKN
Originally Posted by 02SE
They were actually pretty popular initially, but the vigilante green movement with help in no small part from the mainstream media, demonized them for being an 'obscenely large' SUV. That in reality was the same size as millions of pickups running around the country.



No-they were not the same size. They were the biggest personal use SUV on the road at the time. Maybe they were the same length of an F250-since they used that truck's frame. But back when the Excursions were manufactured-F250s were not really personal use vehicles-unless you were towing.


I owned one. They are the size of an F250 supercab with a cab height shell. They are smaller than a crew cab long bed, and certainly a crew cab long bed Dually.

3/4 ton trucks were and are used all the time for personal use.

They were demonized by simpletons masquerading as the green movement, and so-called journalists.

They are still prized for their people hauling and towing ability.


One of the other things that killed the Excursion (not Ford's fault) WAS THE ECONOMY. Consequently-the F250's were not flying off the lot for personal use-unless one really needed the capability. So-we can disagree on the personal use aspect of the F250 during the years the Excursion was manufactured.
 
Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
Surviving Diesel Excursions command 5 figures even today, they can go for 10-15k or more, while gassers are almost worthless and go for around $2-3k, maybe $5000 for the best mint-condition needs-nothing like-new example.


My brother bought a V10 Excursion with a stripped spark plug hole and 220k miles for $1200 from a doctor, repaired it in the guy's driveway, drove it home, and sold it 3 days later for $5500. It was a Limited and loaded.
 
Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
Good for business when your accountant could write off high tonnage vehicles as business expense.
Thus all the GYM owners driving Hummer H1..

Like I said whats worse:

a Little Pathfinder or 4 runner V6 getting 16 MPG gas or the Expo getting 16mpg diesel?

Now you see where the REAL shame should be placed.



As the owner of a bad gas mileage "compact" (nowadays midsize) trucklet SUV, I agree. The Excursion was an easy poster child for "BIG BAD SUV!" because of its obvious size and heavy duty truck appearance, even if it wasn't actually much worse than significantly smaller vehicles. It was released at the peak of truck-based SUV popularity, but that was only a couple/few years before several things changed dramatically in the SUV market and there was an overall shift away from the truck-based models being volume sellers. I'm sure in the late 1990s it was very easy for Ford to justify a bigger, badder Suburban competitor based on a heavy duty truck, but by the mid 2000s it just wasn't needed and probably wasn't conducive to Ford looking "greener." It is a very large vehicle, so the market was limited anyway and in decline when it was discontinued. Also, it was still 100% heavy duty truck when most SUVs, even large ones, were moving to fully independent front and rear suspensions and such.

I still see them pretty regularly, maybe not every day, but I didn't see them that often when they were new either. The diesels are still highly sought after in good condition. I have seen a couple in junkyards, but they were well worn like the Super Duties that end up in junkyards.

I like the Excursion and if I had any need for an SUV that size, I'd be looking at one. The size is more than I'd want to deal with on a daily basis though. If I had piles of money to burn, I'd build a 2-door one (several have been built).
 
So fewer than 200K shipped to dealers over seven model years?
Failure.
Ford apparently tried really hard in the 2K MY and those trucks are now almost old enough to buy liquor in the states while the newest are fourteen years old.
These things could be had dirt cheap in 2008 and beyond.
Too thirsty even with Ford's implementation of the International diesel.
The Suburban has the highest buyer demographic of any GM vehicle and this has been true for decades.
The Excursion was a failed attempt to capture this market from GM by offering an even bigger bus.
You don't see many because there weren't many sold and they're all old vehicles now.
 
Originally Posted by fdcg27
So fewer than 200K shipped to dealers over seven model years?
Failure.
Ford apparently tried really hard in the 2K MY and those trucks are now almost old enough to buy liquor in the states while the newest are fourteen years old.
These things could be had dirt cheap in 2008 and beyond.
Too thirsty even with Ford's implementation of the International diesel.
The Suburban has the highest buyer demographic of any GM vehicle and this has been true for decades.
The Excursion was a failed attempt to capture this market from GM by offering an even bigger bus.
You don't see many because there weren't many sold and they're all old vehicles now.


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Originally Posted by CKN
Originally Posted by fdcg27
So fewer than 200K shipped to dealers over seven model years?
Failure.
Ford apparently tried really hard in the 2K MY and those trucks are now almost old enough to buy liquor in the states while the newest are fourteen years old.
These things could be had dirt cheap in 2008 and beyond.
Too thirsty even with Ford's implementation of the International diesel.
The Suburban has the highest buyer demographic of any GM vehicle and this has been true for decades.
The Excursion was a failed attempt to capture this market from GM by offering an even bigger bus.
You don't see many because there weren't many sold and they're all old vehicles now.


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I think you're forgetting the bad press and completely overblown hysteria from MSB's.
 
Keep in mind that the Excursion was a 3/4 ton SUV. When you get down to the nitty-gritty component level, these trucks were BEEF. It was geared toward travelers/campers who needed a heavy duty tow rig that seated many (hence, the diesel option was so popular) as the traditional "RV" popularity was waning.

Ihat said, It wasn't competition for the half ton soccer-mom SUVs out there like the regular 1500 Suburban/Tahoe or Ford's own Expedition.

I don't have sales numbers, but it seemed as popular, if not more popular than the Suburban 2500 during the same time.

Eventually, both the Excursion and 2500 Suburban disappeared around the same time (mid-2000's).

For a rather niche vehicle and the high sale price, I think the Excursions sales numbers were just fine. What other SUV of this type was vastly outselling it?
 
Originally Posted by emmett442
Keep in mind that the Excursion was a 3/4 ton SUV. When you get down to the nitty-gritty component level, these trucks were BEEF. It was geared toward travelers/campers who needed a heavy duty tow rig that seated many (hence, the diesel option was so popular) as the traditional "RV" popularity was waning.

Ihat said, It wasn't competition for the half ton soccer-mom SUVs out there like the regular 1500 Suburban/Tahoe or Ford's own Expedition.

I don't have sales numbers, but it seemed as popular, if not more popular than the Suburban 2500 during the same time.

Eventually, both the Excursion and 2500 Suburban disappeared around the same time (mid-2000's).

For a rather niche vehicle and the high sale price, I think the Excursions sales numbers were just fine. What other SUV of this type was vastly outselling it?



According to Motortrend: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrolet/suburban/2008/2008-chevrolet-suburban-2500-first-test/
Originally Posted by Motortrend
By volume and dimension the Expedition EL is the closest competitor, and with Sub 2500 sales about 10 percent of the 1500 there may be no need for an EL HD.


So, looking at this graphic, which covers the period where the Excursion was in production:
[Linked Image]


It would indeed indicate that the Excursion significantly out-sold the 2500 Suburban, as even at its peak, we are talking a whopping 15,000 units if the statement from Motortrend is accurate.
 
I see plenty of Excursions around here. Heck, I almost bought one, because I like big vehicles. 5.4 models are dirt cheap, v10s are a bit pricier but still affordable, and diesel ones are like $15k lol. I'd say at least 1/3 that I see are lifted with even bigger tires.
 
Cash for Clunkers.. such a wasteful program that impacted lower income people who rely on used cars.
 
Originally Posted by Reddy45
Cash for Clunkers.. such a wasteful program that impacted lower income people who rely on used cars.

Cash For Clunkers happened in 2009. That means all Excursions were between 4-10 years old at the time. Given the high price they sold for new, and the high price they're still commanding even today, I HIGHLY doubt hardly any were "clunkered" for a measly $4500. Maybe a couple with 300k+ miles were "clunkered," but I'd say 99% of them were not. You really think a truck that had an MSRP of $40k ($40k in 2003 is now $55k today when adjusted for inflation) that is only 6 years old is now worth less than $4500?

Oh yeah, that doesn't fit into the "Blame Cash For Clunkers for everything" agenda everyone's been using for the last 10 years.
 
Originally Posted by CKN
Total Suburban Sales in the same time Period-

2005 87.011
2004 119.545
2003 135.222
2002 151.056
2001 154.782
2000 133.123
1999 138.977

Your chart appears to show all Suburban sales.

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/chevrolet/chevrolet-suburban/


Yes, that was my intention, showing total Suburban sales and then using the 10% figure for the 2500-series to indicate that even at the height of their popularity, the 2500 version sold far fewer units than the Excursion.

GM lumped both the 1500 and 2500 version under a common moniker, whilst Ford produced them as two separate products: Expedition and Excursion.
 
A lot of Excursion hate here for some reason. Yous guys gonna be real mad when they reintroduce it which I expect will happen.
 
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