To my surprise, Jan 2024, there are a number of bolts available on the Carolina Coast.
2 at my local dealer and 10 others I can have shipped direct from Chevy to our local dealers, available next week.
What would be an acceptable charge time at a fast charger for you?
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2 at my local dealer and 10 others I can have shipped direct from Chevy to our local dealers, available next week.
What's cool is that we waste about 20 seconds per day charging, and none at gas stations.
First two sentences you'll find most agree with.
The 3rd sentence is presented in every case as though it's black and white, and thats only your opinion.
There are many shades of gray here and use cases determine what does and doesn't work better per individual.
Rental COULD work if they had onsite fast charging, without that it wont work.
Where I do think EVs benefit where that extra 5 minutes longer wouldn't matter in your example is the fact that we can walk away while charging. Truly if they could get it down to 10-12 minutes and you needed to purchase something inside the difference is negligible. I don't go inside for fuel stops unless it's a longer trip so with home charging I think it would be nearly the same thing. That number is usually more like 20-30 minutes if you're hopping charger to charger these days on a trip though.
I don't need an ICE vehicle. I have a good older one that isn't worth much, so why would I sell it to buy anything. It's currently a bit better than an EV on long trips (which we hardly ever take). But its nowhere near as convenient for local use. When it gets too old I'll weigh the pluses and minuses of what kind of vehicle best meets our needs at that time.
I'm amazed how convenient an EV is for local use. But then I charge mine up daily in our garage.
If someone needs a vehicle for local use or for a reasonable commute and if they plan to spend as much as a typical new car costs today, and if they have a place to install a level 2 charger, they really should think about buying an EV.
And if you really hate the idea of buying an EV then don't buy one.
Ok so you don't need an ICE vehicle, did I use the word all? No, I used the word most. If you read through the pages here you'll see there are many EV owners who feel the need to have both, expand the horizon beyond Bitog and you'll see my comments are correct.
It could work, but it didn't, that's the reality. It could work "if", "if" is a big word. But yes it might have worked, we will ever know. Bottom line they screwed up. I didn't mention they also had problems with the high cost to repair them, that was another reality they learned the hard way.
I agree they screwed up. We all pretty much saw it coming - why they didn't I cant fathom.
The difference between it working and not working is chargers on site.
"Most" is fair.
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i think by the comments on almost every ev thread, folks want the same experience they currently have with their ices mobiles.
That could mean way less then the current 42 minute ev charging average at charging sites. And big no no to charging at home. Folks want to charge at a off home site regularly.
That could mean way less then the current 42 minute ev charging average at charging sites. And big no no to charging at home. Folks want to charge at a off home site regularly.
Yeah. The idea that someone might forget to charge it is strange for anyone who has done that. It's almost automatic to plug in an EV or PHEV, even if only because it's better to power the vehicle's electronics off of external power than the battery. A few seconds and your done, whether it's in a garage or on the driveway. Heck - I've seen an EV parked on the street that gets charged with the owner snaking the cable under a cable protector on the sidewalk. I believe that legally the sidewalk is the property of the homeowner, but with an implied permission for the public to pass over it. But it looks like this (this is from a UK site so yeah that's correct):
I was thinking of this and how it might work in the US or other countries where parking on the right is more common. Tesla's charging port is always left rear, but other manufacturers set it up in other places - notably the front. Obviously Tesla isn't going to change given that they already account for that with their Supercharger layout. Those aren't Level 2 connections where a 21 foot cable is practical.
And how is it going to work when other vehicle brands gain access to Tesla's Supercharger network? They're all designed to connect with a shortish cable to the left rear. I have seen some pull-in spaces in a few locations. I suppose then they might need to pull-in.
We almost agree.
Chargers on site might have made it work. They won't do anything with the high repair costs, or problems renters had once they ventured out on their journeys.
It's a different experience no doubt. However, a lot of people who have gotten used to their EVs that can be charged at home where most vehicle sit overnight anyways.
My dad is extremely impatient about all manner of things. When we were on the road he was ticked off that I wanted to wait a bit longer charging a Model 3 just to get a little more range for peace of mind. But at home he's taken to letting it charge at home overnight. He much prefers that to going to a gas station.
We almost agree.
Hertz is working on the charging, which was clearly a mistake. Decreasing the EV fleet while increasing the charging infrastructure is clearly going to help.
The problem with high repair costs was partially a matter of there being a lot of damage from rideshare drivers who more or less abused them. And it was a deliberate attempt to provide Teslas for rideshare drivers.
And the biggest problem with renters is that they often received EVs with a low state of charge. That could be alleviated with more charging infrastructure. Maybe not completely, but it would certainly help to have more vehicles that are near a full charge.
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Remember, most people do not need to plug in every day for day-to-day use. Regular distance driving is another story. Probably better where I live, but just the same.
We almost agree.
Outside of EVs we usually do.
Cost to repair is an interesting metric that I'd like to learn more about.
No surprise they cost more than nissan rogues or corollas, but everything does. Is it mercedes/ audi / BMW level expense, or Bentley expense?
For sure you cant fix stupid.
I've never run out of gas in my life. Those that do are going to constantly be having issues with dead batteries in EV's.
I would say it a little differently; people are reluctant to change. Once they learn about the new thing, they just might find it better.
EV may or may not be less convenient; it depends on your use case.
Full tank every day, scheduled service is the cabin air filter, check tire pressure and blue warsher fluid. Hard to beat.
But again, it depends on your use case. I will say ownership is different from many of the comments I see. That's my opinion based on 5 years of Tesla ownership and over 50 years of ICE ownership. I have learned a lot...
