Guys, it seems fewer and fewer oils still have zinc content. I still like to use zinc in my engines because of the benefits, so which brands still have it?
What oils still have zinc?
- Thread starter berniedd
- Start date
- Status
All of them. Except, what is it, Fuchs or Elf that has the super crazy zinc free oils that cost like 20 bucks a quart?
Since you live in the Philippines, I'd bet the zinc/phosphorous content of oils there is twice what it is in the US.
Since you live in the Philippines, I'd bet the zinc/phosphorous content of oils there is twice what it is in the US.
Last edited:
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Allof them....Since you live in the Philippines, I'd bet the zinc/phosphorous content of oils there is twice what it is in the US.
Am not sure about that. Some of the oils we have here are directly imported from other countries, like Australia, Singapore and Malaysia. The problem is, the labels do not include information about whether or not the product contains zinc. Even for oils made in the country. Often the oil companies' websites are not helpful either.
Allof them....Since you live in the Philippines, I'd bet the zinc/phosphorous content of oils there is twice what it is in the US.
Am not sure about that. Some of the oils we have here are directly imported from other countries, like Australia, Singapore and Malaysia. The problem is, the labels do not include information about whether or not the product contains zinc. Even for oils made in the country. Often the oil companies' websites are not helpful either.
Last edited:
As stated, pretty much all motor oils have zinc. Just at varying levels.
What kind of engine are thinking about and list some of the oils you are worried about.
What kind of engine are thinking about and list some of the oils you are worried about.
Vavoline premium blue/blue extreme has a higher amount than most I've seen...with a decent amount of moly as well.
For those in Canada, Esso XD3 (CI4+ which is still on the market) has lots of ZDDP in it as well. There is a VOA of it in that section.
I don't know about overseas formulations. I'm sure you can get Amsoil anywhere in the world, or Delvac/Mobil. They both have good amounts as well.
For those in Canada, Esso XD3 (CI4+ which is still on the market) has lots of ZDDP in it as well. There is a VOA of it in that section.
I don't know about overseas formulations. I'm sure you can get Amsoil anywhere in the world, or Delvac/Mobil. They both have good amounts as well.
Last edited:
Originally Posted By: berniedd
Guys, it seems fewer and fewer oils still have zinc content. I still like to use zinc in my engines because of the benefits, so which brands still have it?
Since the blend of a certain product line might change from country to country depending on the source of the product the best thing to do would be to get an oil analyis on the product you think is probably worthy. Of course that will set you back $25 but that way you know for sure. Here in the states we see everything from 600 ppm all the way up to 2000 or even more in some specialty oils. But I would heitate to say that the additive package for a given label here is the same as there. The only exceptions would probably be Royal Purple, Amsoil, Red Line and a few others.
Guys, it seems fewer and fewer oils still have zinc content. I still like to use zinc in my engines because of the benefits, so which brands still have it?
Since the blend of a certain product line might change from country to country depending on the source of the product the best thing to do would be to get an oil analyis on the product you think is probably worthy. Of course that will set you back $25 but that way you know for sure. Here in the states we see everything from 600 ppm all the way up to 2000 or even more in some specialty oils. But I would heitate to say that the additive package for a given label here is the same as there. The only exceptions would probably be Royal Purple, Amsoil, Red Line and a few others.
Keep in mind that the benefit of a zinc phosphate compound in motor oil is not that it does something nothing else can do. The benefit is that it does a couple of things (anti wear, anti oxidant) very cheaply. Each generation of oil specs has tougher wear limits in the sequence tests, and if the zinc phosphate compounds are reduced (to keep phosphorus from the catalytic converter and other parts) other compounds are in the mix to handle the wear and other concerns.
Originally Posted By: Pablo
As stated, pretty much all motor oils have zinc. Just at varying levels.
What kind of engine are thinking about and list some of the oils you are worried about.
Well, I'm looking at the cheapies, Delo and Rotella 15w40
As stated, pretty much all motor oils have zinc. Just at varying levels.
What kind of engine are thinking about and list some of the oils you are worried about.
Well, I'm looking at the cheapies, Delo and Rotella 15w40
Originally Posted By: jmac
both of those brands, I daresay even overseas, have plenty of zinc content.
Yes, concur 100%
both of those brands, I daresay even overseas, have plenty of zinc content.
Yes, concur 100%
Originally Posted By: Ken2
Keep in mind that the benefit of a zinc phosphate compound in motor oil is not that it does something nothing else can do. The benefit is that it does a couple of things (anti wear, anti oxidant) very cheaply. Each generation of oil specs has tougher wear limits in the sequence tests, and if the zinc phosphate compounds are reduced (to keep phosphorus from the catalytic converter and other parts) other compounds are in the mix to handle the wear and other concerns.
Good point. Something that gets forgotton about these days with the new CJ4
Keep in mind that the benefit of a zinc phosphate compound in motor oil is not that it does something nothing else can do. The benefit is that it does a couple of things (anti wear, anti oxidant) very cheaply. Each generation of oil specs has tougher wear limits in the sequence tests, and if the zinc phosphate compounds are reduced (to keep phosphorus from the catalytic converter and other parts) other compounds are in the mix to handle the wear and other concerns.
Good point. Something that gets forgotton about these days with the new CJ4
- Status
