Originally Posted By: rudolphna
So if we go by your line of thought, then we will start having our cars, airplanes, everything built in china, indonesia. Is this what you want?
That is not what I wrote, that is what you want to read through it, that is different.
I have just written: "Let the best win". That is not one of the Americans mojo: Free market, full liberalism, no control of any sort.
By applying imports taxes and buy american rules, you put controls by the governments in your everyday life, things that so many people contest here. Quite strange, no?
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
So we have even HIGHER unemployment HERE IN THE US/Canada because nothing is made here, and everything is outsourced. There will be jobs left in some service industries, but nothing else. Yup sounds good to me. 25%+ unemployment, anyone?
That is what populists try to put in your mind, but if you read more economics papers, you will see that these people just try to fool you to get your votes.
Only education will save modern countries: That would be good for our economies but will bring some inconvenients on others sectors, like questioning why they did these choices (answer: for their own benefits of course), so they prefer take the money, ruin their countries, and run.
You know, not everything is made in low cost countries... for now, and if you want to avoid that, you will have to change your way of living, before it is too late.
Right now, it is the Walmart way of economy: You don't pay stuff (made in other countries) that much, and since it is cheaper, you can pay people even less, so they have to buy cheap stuff, and you continue the circle of poverty. In the end, it is Walmart (US company, so that is OK, right) who win, pulling both side of strings towards its pockets, all the others lose (low cost employees get even less money out of their jobs, and here we become less richer by the minute).
The thing is not to lower your quality of job to compete against something you cannot win against (low cost countries with poor quality products), but to increase the quality of your products to show your difference and make it more valuable than the cheap ones. For that you need education to change the way people see global economy (see long term gain and loss of their choices instead of just the short term gain).
When I was younger (and living in Europe), when something was broken, it was more economical to repair it than to buy a new one (think iron, washing machine, stuff like that).
Last year, my two year old iron broke (probably a solder or thyristor went wrong), and the only solution the vendor offered me was to buy a new one, I could not even make it repaired if I wanted, no more choice. This part of the economy is gone. When it is broken, your neighbor cannot repair it for you, you HAVE to go buy another cheap one and help the low cost economy to grow.
That is in this type of situation that you know your economy went too far and it may be too late to change our faith.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
I think the only countries that should be exempt from US import taxes are Canada, the UK, France, Germany, and a few other european countries.
You know that is not the case right now, right? Think Canadian wood, French wine and cheese, etc...
By creating this protectionism, lots of people in Canada and Europe have lost/will lose their jobs.
If they do the same on their side, it will be the same in the US and the only one who will survive will be the one playing the cheapest route through low cost countries (he can survive some taxes (he will just lower the salaries) where some other countries cannot do).
I am not sure to explain it correctly as English is not my born language, and it is a complicated matter (and it is may be a little bit too political for BITOG too).
I just want you go out there and read some papers about that subject, it may alter your way of seeing things (I see already that you incorporated the Honda/Toyota made in the US in your protectionist speech which is a change from few months ago).
More education doesn't hurt anyone who is willing to improve (that is why I come here and read a lot everyday), it is good to challenge ourselves to make us better.
Those who think they know everything are the ones who won't go far.
So if we go by your line of thought, then we will start having our cars, airplanes, everything built in china, indonesia. Is this what you want?
That is not what I wrote, that is what you want to read through it, that is different.
I have just written: "Let the best win". That is not one of the Americans mojo: Free market, full liberalism, no control of any sort.
By applying imports taxes and buy american rules, you put controls by the governments in your everyday life, things that so many people contest here. Quite strange, no?
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
So we have even HIGHER unemployment HERE IN THE US/Canada because nothing is made here, and everything is outsourced. There will be jobs left in some service industries, but nothing else. Yup sounds good to me. 25%+ unemployment, anyone?
That is what populists try to put in your mind, but if you read more economics papers, you will see that these people just try to fool you to get your votes.
Only education will save modern countries: That would be good for our economies but will bring some inconvenients on others sectors, like questioning why they did these choices (answer: for their own benefits of course), so they prefer take the money, ruin their countries, and run.
You know, not everything is made in low cost countries... for now, and if you want to avoid that, you will have to change your way of living, before it is too late.
Right now, it is the Walmart way of economy: You don't pay stuff (made in other countries) that much, and since it is cheaper, you can pay people even less, so they have to buy cheap stuff, and you continue the circle of poverty. In the end, it is Walmart (US company, so that is OK, right) who win, pulling both side of strings towards its pockets, all the others lose (low cost employees get even less money out of their jobs, and here we become less richer by the minute).
The thing is not to lower your quality of job to compete against something you cannot win against (low cost countries with poor quality products), but to increase the quality of your products to show your difference and make it more valuable than the cheap ones. For that you need education to change the way people see global economy (see long term gain and loss of their choices instead of just the short term gain).
When I was younger (and living in Europe), when something was broken, it was more economical to repair it than to buy a new one (think iron, washing machine, stuff like that).
Last year, my two year old iron broke (probably a solder or thyristor went wrong), and the only solution the vendor offered me was to buy a new one, I could not even make it repaired if I wanted, no more choice. This part of the economy is gone. When it is broken, your neighbor cannot repair it for you, you HAVE to go buy another cheap one and help the low cost economy to grow.
That is in this type of situation that you know your economy went too far and it may be too late to change our faith.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
I think the only countries that should be exempt from US import taxes are Canada, the UK, France, Germany, and a few other european countries.
You know that is not the case right now, right? Think Canadian wood, French wine and cheese, etc...
By creating this protectionism, lots of people in Canada and Europe have lost/will lose their jobs.
If they do the same on their side, it will be the same in the US and the only one who will survive will be the one playing the cheapest route through low cost countries (he can survive some taxes (he will just lower the salaries) where some other countries cannot do).
I am not sure to explain it correctly as English is not my born language, and it is a complicated matter (and it is may be a little bit too political for BITOG too).
I just want you go out there and read some papers about that subject, it may alter your way of seeing things (I see already that you incorporated the Honda/Toyota made in the US in your protectionist speech which is a change from few months ago).
More education doesn't hurt anyone who is willing to improve (that is why I come here and read a lot everyday), it is good to challenge ourselves to make us better.
Those who think they know everything are the ones who won't go far.
