What is this "you've won" scam

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I get a call about 3 days ago. It correctly identified my DOB and under a username that was a sub account on AOL YEARS AGO. My daughter must have entered me in some contest. Remember this was YEARS ago.

The guy on the end in IL handled all the bases. This wasn't a "you qualify to win" ..nope. I'll be walking out with one of the following.

A Lincoln Navigator or $45k certified check (my choice)

$2500 cash (certified check)

Air fare and accommodations for a 2 week vacation to LA, LV, Orlando, and one other location. Two years to use

A 32" Toshiba flat screen retailing for $599 (voucher good at Best Buy).

Allegedly all the selection process is done via scratch off tickets.

Naturally, there's a 90 minute sales pitch for this travel broker ..probably a travel club.

The oddity was that we had 3 days to pick to attend in Reading PA. Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday and two sessions on each day. Saturday was the only one that worked. So, I call him up on Tuesday and leave a message. No return. Wednesday I call and leave a message saying that we can attend Saturday ..but if I don't hear from him I'll assume that the offer is no longer valid and make other plans. He returns the call yesterday. All I needed was an address. He gives me a confirmation number ..and just as he's pulling up the address ...he says he has to reboot his computer and that he'll call me back. No return call until way later in the day. Finally get the address.

He really emphasized that it was couples only ..no kids and no uninvited strangers. He also said that two forms of identification would be required and that debit cards would not be accepted ..also stating that a major credit card with the numbers covered up would be valid (spider sense is tingling).

At one point I told him that this sounded an awful lot like one COPS or other LEO show where they had a bunch of people who either had bench warrants or were behind in child support and they awarded them all fake prizes if they would be at a certain place at a certain time. After they had enough of the scoff laws in the corral ..they sprung the trap. He said that he recalled the episode (more tingling
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The thing is, I fall into no such category.

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop here. I wouldn't really bother except we just had one of our antiquated tube televisions go south. A 32" (cheaper) flat screen would come in handy.

We see the hook. Where's the snare?
 
I would have never dug this deep to find out. I don't care what the details are, there is no free lunch.

There are so many ways 'they' can snare/trap you with this that no matter how many you think of, another will come out of no-where.

Run, Gary, run!
 
They will put you in a room and bring increasingly pushy salesmen in to try to sell you a time share. A very unpleasant experience to enable you to buy a TV at a slight discount.
 
LOL I would have hung up on those dirtbags within the first 60 seconds.
 
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HAd that call a while back....but somehow had my current stuff (I just don't give out stuff like that)...but wanted info like income and such. (amazingly I didn't "qualify" for the prizes)


From what I've gathered, it's a "info" scam.


Meaning they gather as much info they can and sell it to the highest bidder. The same kind of stuff they do so you can win a "free" car at the mall.
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Oh..yeah ..one point he reiterated several times. NOT A TIME SHARE.

A time share by any other name . . . ? :)
My wife and I went to one of these things about 20 years ago. We were GUARANTEED to be winners. It was a sales pitch for a time share.
Our prize? A 2 night stay at a cheap hotel in Las Vegas.
 
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From what I've gathered, it's a "info" scam.


I had considered that it was an audition for the next offering of that fake bank thing where they gave you $500 but asked you to put down if your last girl friend broke your heart. I think it was for IE ...
 
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A time share by any other name . . . ? :)


It don't matter. I cannot afford to buy anything on credit.


I was kinda expecting someone here to have a link to a scam data base.
 
THAT happened to me while vacationing in Hilton Head S.C. After the tour and the sales pitch, I did get 50 dollars and got to see places at Hilton Head that the general public was not allowed to go to. But it did zap 4 hours of my life.....but, 50 bucks bought a lot of brew!!!!
 
A few years back, oilBabe and I stayed in Branson on these folks:

http://www.rentmytimeshare.biz/about_big_cedar.cfm

BlueGreen was trying to pitch their Big Cedar Wilderness Club. I'd been to Big Cedar before for my Grandmother's 80'th birthday and it's a pretty nice resort.

We had to endure the sales pitch on Sunday AM after staying Friday and Saturday night in Branson. We were down there anyway to pick up the kids from camp so we got "free" lodging on a Father's Day weekend.

We took in a show on their dime, and had breakfast on their dime on Sunday AM.

It wasn't any sort of contest, but rather, IIRC, a $50 package that required the visit. So it wasn't totally free, but two nights in Branson and a show is more than $50.

We said no, there was no way we would buy a time share new. oilBabe's dearly departed dad already owned two or three and the way to buy them, if you really want one, is from someone looking to get out. Then you can buy for pennies on the dollar, essentially only having to pay the annual maintenance fee.

So the contest winnings are likely the lodging to endure the sales pitch.

If you can say no, and are willing to give up a few hours, it can work for you.

oilBabe did the same thing in Orlando. We took different flights so she got there about 1/2 before I did. She endured the one hour time share pitch and then got 4 three day passes to Sea World. So we went to Sea World on one hour of her time and a paid ticket for the 5th person.
 
Originally Posted By: dparm
LOL I would have hung up on those dirtbags within the first 60 seconds.
Besides those other nameless idiots, I'd gotten a call once from a contest that I did enter, but the moron wanted my credit card #. When I told her I didn't (I don't any longer), she asked if I had a debit; "No, I don't", and then asked if I had a checking account. I said no to that also. So whenever you see those cars in a mall with the win this sign by it, walk on by. My account is for me to use, and even if I did have any money, I would not give it to anyone whom calls me. I hate those morons.
 
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Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
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From what I've gathered, it's a "info" scam.


I had considered that it was an audition for the next offering of that fake bank thing where they gave you $500 but asked you to put down if your last girl friend broke your heart. I think it was for IE ...

The latest spot shows the scammer asking the potential sucker, "Do you have any dead pets?"
 
Go in there! Your spidey sense will protect you.

Stand up in the middle of the meeting and start screaming about how the same time shares are selling on ebay for $300. Get creative. This sounds like a drive-yourself-there event so it's not like they can cut up your return flight plane ticket.
 
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