So we take the race, EV loses, then we get home and change the race to 0-60, or 1/4 mile vs a legs race.
I'll get the money back.
What is a long trip really like in an EV?
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So we take the race, EV loses, then we get home and change the race to 0-60, or 1/4 mile vs a legs race.
I'll get the money back.
In a discussion about EVs? - people take 600 mile trips every day and never stop to eat, use the bathroom, or fuel. They never fill the car before a trip, or fill it when they get home and dont recognize that time as part of the trip.
Then when they get home they never ever have to take a separate trip to fuel, and every fuel stop they take is 5 minutes long.
They somehow always manage to forget about the weekly or more trips to the gas station and that time that takes while ignoring the fact that the EV imposes none of that on them.
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I have the occasional 300 mile day. 80-150 is more common. I don't always use the Tesla, but it hasn't been an issue so far. That's for work so I can't really have hiccups and long stops. If it was an issue I wouldn't own an electric car and I'm actually planning to buy a second eventually. I haven't decided yet.
I'm surprised that "work" allows you to drive that much in one day with a personal vehicle. Usually once you pass the 100 mile mark, it is cheaper for the company to pay for a rental car at pre-negotiated corporate rates than to pay reimbursement at 65.5 cents/mile.
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I meant preserving range, not really battery.
If I drove EV like ICE it would take me double the time.
This all depends on the actual door to door time and logistic of the trip
I make a 7 hour drive 12 times a year from Nor Cal to So Cal.
I have vastly superior flexibility and comfort driving. I sell to the entertainment industry and plans can change on a nickel - extra meeting, cancelled meeting, new meeting 1 day later.... airlines and rental cars do not allow for much flexibility once a schedule is locked.
Maybe if you live quite near the airport, then valet park, etc, for 1 person? I find its pretty much a whole day shot to take a flight and I'm just under 2 hrs from the airport, and its not really less stressful, unless I'm driving in a winter storm. 4-500 miles is a nice days drive, and there's no messing around with getting a rental car once you are there, and if its 2-3-4 of you its quite a bit of savings... We have lots of time off work so we don't usually go 400+miles away for a weekend. Once we are going that far we usually stay a while, see and do some stuff.
Sue and I have always made long road trips, even when we were still working. And now that we're retired, road trips are an even bigger part of our travels.
Sue and I regularly bang out 500+ mile days. On our last road trip we drove home from Zion National Park to home in one day, about 600 miles. We like staying at fine hotels and driving saves airfare and car rental costs.
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It's the railroad. The options are take a personal vehicle, take a cab, or ride Amtrak. I like having my car so if I end up there for multiple days I'm not stuck at a hotel without transportation.
^This.
ID.4 is our regional road tripper up to maybe ~4-5 hour drive which is 1-2 charge stops each way, anything beyond that we are flying. Even if I had a regular ICE vehicle we would still fly if the drive was beyond 4-5 hours. For regional road tripping it has been fantastic, the charging stops usually end up around the times that we are ready for a pit stop anyways and so far have been located in areas with good dining and shopping to help kill the time.
This makes absolutely no sense. Either they were charging to 100% at every stop or had some sort of bizarre charging issues. I can't see how it could take even half of 11 hours, let alone 11 hours of charging for that distance. I'd love to know what I'm missing here
I’ve seen some absolutely brutal lines for fast chargers as of late.
The large diesel generators powering a lot of the new units are chuckle inducing as well.
In town or urban/suburban interface, with home solar, sure, EV’s make sense (ignoring a LOT of other concerns here).
On a long drive the tech dictates the trip, not the destination. I think this is why early adopters are so rabid. To them the tech is cool and the inconvenience is irrelevant.
To anyone else, it’s a second or third car option at best.
The large diesel generators powering a lot of the new units are chuckle inducing as well.
In town or urban/suburban interface, with home solar, sure, EV’s make sense (ignoring a LOT of other concerns here).
On a long drive the tech dictates the trip, not the destination. I think this is why early adopters are so rabid. To them the tech is cool and the inconvenience is irrelevant.
To anyone else, it’s a second or third car option at best.
I don't know if the inconvenience is irrelevant, but I will say if you want it to not work for you, it won't work for you. It takes some habit changing and actually wanting to use it. That's why these arguments are stupid. Using it how I do it's exponentially more convenient than my gas car since I almost never stop to charge with my driving habits. If you want to treat it like a gas car and "fill up" when it needs it, you'll waste a lot of time unless that fill up is happening in your own garage. I'd never own an electric car without home charging.
Im the same, long trip, I drive until I have to stop and fill the tank again, I start looking around at the same 1/4 tank level.
I would be annoyed too at anything much longer than filling a tank. *LOL* Heck if I see one car waiting in line for the next gas pump I'll move on *LOL* with gasoline, you're not forced into anything. Its available everywhere and fast.
No but they can come with a nice powerful ICE generator, or give you a tow to somewhere to recharge.
Lol what? I drove diagonally across Missouri in a Volvo C40, and in an RDX. Same trip. It took 45 minutes longer in the C40. In my EV6 GT? It would probably be about the same time because it's more efficient and charges twice as fast. Granted, that's only a 250mi/5 hour trip, but still, I can add 30-45 minutes to a 8+ hour trip and not really worry about it, and that's with TODAY's charging infrastructure.
*I typically drive 75-85mph.
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So it is the same thing as EV6 is faster than Porsche; we just don't want to show you time. But, PROBABLY, it is.
MO is easy. It is flat. Come to KS and West, where you first have ridiculous winds, then you constantly climb, go down, climb, go down, then more wind, then climb, then go down.
That is why every EV in UT drives 30mph below the speed limit, as, well, in some sections, you don't have an exit for 100mls, let alone a charging station. Same goes between Las Vegas and San Bernardino.
My friend moved from LA to Denver in Tesla 3. Took him three days, with regular hotel sleeps, for what is really needed a day and a half. His wife did it in the day and a half in Pilot, spending one night in a hotel.
a 400 mile one-way trip with a hybrid vehicle is cheaper than flying, such as a recent business trip from LA to Monterey.
Fly: drive to LAX, get stuck in traffic, park, get to ticketing, then pass TSA security checkpoint, wait for flight... get to San Jose, wait for baggage, shuttle to car rental to pick up your car, drive over an 1 hour to Monterey. Reverse the process for flying back.
Costs me $100 to drive round trip, while it may take longer... I make money from mileage reimbursement (and no detour to San Jose, or connect to Monterey which only has 2 flights daily) Flights costs over $400 alone, then add rental car, and economy parking.
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Driving from LA to Salt Lake City.... me vs a Tesla Model Y? I get there quicker. Less time to top off the tank vs more frequent Supercharger stops. Also a hitch mounted ski rack on the Model Y has a bigger impact to aerodynamics compared to my cargo box, thus impacts their range more than my range/mpg
Add no Tesla chargers in Murray, UT, where we stayed for lodging... had to drop the owner off of a regular EV charging station (for a long-deep charge) near by. The trade-off of staying having a Utah Transit Service bus stop in front of the hotel to go to the Cottonwood Canyon IKON ski resorts.
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