What happens when both have the right-of-way?

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Im a driver education teacher and this sounds exactly like a question I'd hear in class
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My dad was a defensive driving teacher and his standard answer to the question "Who has the right of way?" was "The person who takes it." His point being that a defensive driver will always yield the right of way, no mater if he/she "technically" has the right of way, if it will avoid an accident.
 
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My dad was a defensive driving teacher and his standard answer to the question "Who has the right of way?" was "The person who takes it." His point being that a defensive driver will always yield the right of way, no mater if he/she "technically" has the right of way, if it will avoid an accident.


The PA driver manual (others too, I imagine) states it in plain language. If exercising the right of way risks an accident, you don't have the right of way.
 
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Also at issue is the possible role an Opticom — a device mounted at intersections to regulate traffic signals as emergency vehicles approach — played in the crash.


Opticom installations often have a white light that turns on to indicate that to the emergency vehicle driver that they have gotten the green and will continue to get it.

However, I've seen a few Opticom installations where they apparently cheaped out and didn't install the white light, so it's possible for two emergency vehicle drivers who both expect to get the green due to Opticom to crash.
 
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The PA driver manual (others too, I imagine) states it in plain language. If exercising the right of way risks an accident, you don't have the right of way.

By that logic, you'll have four people sitting at a four-way stop for the rest of their lives.
 
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Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
The PA driver manual (others too, I imagine) states it in plain language. If exercising the right of way risks an accident, you don't have the right of way.

By that logic, you'll have four people sitting at a four-way stop for the rest of their lives.


That's true if they are too stupid to use hand signals and if none of them is willing to let anyone else go first.
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I've heard criticisms about those green-light-overrides... emergency vehicles that used to pass cars queued up at red lights now have them wobbling forward, confused, when the lights suddenly turn green. In the way longer.
 
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Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
The PA driver manual (others too, I imagine) states it in plain language. If exercising the right of way risks an accident, you don't have the right of way.

By that logic, you'll have four people sitting at a four-way stop for the rest of their lives.


The notion was more along the lines of something like if someone is going to collide with you while they're supposed to yield.

Hitting them, merely because you had the right of way would truly be stupid. You'll be the least intelligent person not to be charged with the accident that you could have avoided.

..but I had the right to collide with the (other) idiot!
 
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