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Originally posted by Spitty:
To quote the GM dealer when I complained about the oil consumption of a Chevy Scotsdale PU I had;
"They all do that"


Executive translation:

"I'm too lazy to care about your piddling problem, now go away and stop bothering me."
 
Ok, now I'm confused. By the first couple of comments made I assumed that no oil consumption was great, but now it's just the opposite? Is no oil consumption bad?
 
As long as it's not consuming an excessive amount of oil, it's fine. Don't worry about it. If it's still full at 3K, all the better.

As far as engines which consume oil, is it really that hard to check it once in a while and top it up with some $1.20/quart oil if it needs some?

I assume that if you've spent $60,000 for a vehicle, you might have some money left over for the occasional quart of top-up oil. **** , you might even have enough money left over to pay someone (your butler, maybe?) to do it for you.
 
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some dipsticks don't have hash marks.

Yes ...true ..but..

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but a BITOG anal-retentive that parks their car on level ground in the same spot

Can always add them ...or after enough intense focus on oil checking ...can gain the keen savvy to read it without them
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I would say he has good ring seal seal, a good PCV, and good valve stem seals that haven't hardened up. Obviously, no gaskets are leaking as well. What kind of driving/driving habits do you do?

One who slows to a stop rather decelerating quickly produces less vacuum to draw off some of the oil/vapors.

My DIL's Taho uses a half quart every 3 K (stop and go traffic mostly) so I'd say you're doing great.

I have two Nisaan vehicles that don't use any observable oil between 3-5 K changes as well (99% highway).

I do think maybe they use a few milliliters due to volatility but so far as the dipstick, you couldn't tell.
 
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Originally posted by MolaKule:
What kind of driving/driving habits do you do?

Mostly highway. I can easily put 70 miles a day on my vehicles.
 
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Originally posted by simple:
Ok, now I'm confused. By the first couple of comments made I assumed that no oil consumption was great, but now it's just the opposite? Is no oil consumption bad?

No oil consumption is always a good thing. Some people just can't see past their domestic car prejudice or must not believe you. Or maybe their just making a shot, because they're jealous.
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Sounds like you have a good running vehicle like many of us here. Now about those 3000 mile oil changes....
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Originally posted by simple:
[snip....Mostly highway. I can easily put 70 miles a day on my vehicles.

2 points. Likely that allows you to escape the severe duty requirement and go past the 3000 miles.

I have had several cars that used little or no oil. None of them eventually developed lube problems even after 100 K+. Well over 100 K in some cases.
 
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Originally posted by XS650:
... and reads their oil level by which hash mark it's at ...

I've done this. And I have added oil in several ounce increments (more because it is fun to add a little oil than because it needed it).
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Originally posted by XS650:
I doubt that anyone but a BITOG anal-retentive that parks their car on level ground in the same spot, and reds their oil level by which hash mark it's at (there are 11 between full and empty on mine) would be able to read that consistantly.



You're probably right! By the way, some dipsticks don't have hash marks. Ford just likes to use a crosshatched area, and they always seem to read a bit over full after an oil change too, making it that more difficult to accurately gauge small amounts of oil consumption.


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Brian, one of the best things about BITOG is that people like you actually read this stuff and think about it and comment on unrealistic posts.
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That adds greatly to the learning experiance.
Thanks.
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Oh come on now with that Honda crap. My 02 Cavalier with the Ecotec has 55K on it now, and has never needed oil between changes. This includes going over 7 K with my 3 month intervals on Pennzoil 5w30 dino. I figure if I go over 7 K in 3 months, I am getting away from the severe duty requiring short trips with a cold engine.

I think some people need to be more objective about GM quality. There are a lot of Honda oil burners too.

From a forum the mods may not want me to mention, ''I use Mobil 1 10W40 oil, was afraid to get anything lighter because the car is burning some oil - around a quarter of a gallon on 1250 miles. By the way, is that too much oil burned?''

OK, it is a 91 Civic.
 
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Originally posted by T-Keith:
Contrary to what many people here believe having a domestic engine that doesn't use oil is NOT unusual. Looks like your doing good.

Yes, you are right. However, having a GM 5.7L that doesn't use oil is unusual. I would bet that 75% of GM 5.7L engines use at least 1 quart per 3,000 miles. GM's low standard of normal is up to 1 quart per 1,000 miles.
 
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Originally posted by medic:
GM's low standard of normal is up to 1 quart per 1,000 miles.

I was reading the 2004 GM service manual for the Chevrolet Classic last night and it stated that under 36,000 miles, oil consumption of more than 1 quart in 2000 miles is excessive.

That may only apply to the Ecotec engine used in the 2004 Classic.
 
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Originally posted by TallPaul:
I've done this. And I have added oil in several ounce increment

So have I, but it's because I have a one-car garage and two cars..and the driveway is sloped, making my garage essentially the only place I can get an accurate oil level reading.

So whatever car is parked in the garage gets the oil checked shortly after it's parked there. I generally swap the cars around every week or two.
 
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Originally posted by brianl703:
QB] ...and the driveway is sloped ...[/QB]

How about establishing a new safe zone by scratching marks on the back side of the dip stick for use when parked on the slope? Of course, if you ever move and the driveway at the new place is sloped differently ...
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Again, Paul, you can just graduate the dipstick with "°" marks to compensate for various slopes ..extending the "SAFE" zone. This is for the "resident" level of oil checking practician. This is like the human torque wrench and human compression gauge (visions of Yoda, "adventure-heh..excitment-heh...an oil checker seeks not these things"). They all fall under "acquired skills".
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Originally posted by brianl703:
So, does anyone use a bubble level before checking their oil?

Believe it or not, I did that once.
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Also used a bubble level to find a level spot on the shelf (then marked the spot) to set the partly used bottle so I can read exactly how much oil is left in the bottle (also need to make sure you don't distort the bottle when capping it by squeezing it).
 
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