What do you all mean by pre filling?

[TallPaul]

I usually roll the filter on a 45 degree angle to get the oil to soak through the filter media and keep refilling. In winter make sure the oil and filter are in the house so it is warm to flow better on the to prefill.

With the Fleetguard LF697 I just poured it in and the oil went through the media like water. That filter has nearly 16 gpm flow rate. Very low restriction, but I have a 4400 mile UOA showing great wear numbers with it.

 

[OdinsRageSS]

I prefill on my 01 camaro SS, easy mounting position right next to oil pan.

A tip-- many cars are like this--

when I floor the gas pedal, and crank the igition, it just cranks and cranks because the computer reads WOT and will not start in that condition. I think the injectors get shut off! So i do that for a few seconds before I start it.

 

[kevm14]

GM calls that "clear flood mode" and that's a very good tip! Both of my GM cars (95 Camaro and 93 Caprice) have this feature.

 

[opus1]

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Originally posted by RTexasF:
I recall the oil filter on my (then new) 88 Mini Blazer 4X4 with 4.3L V-6,first year with that engine.

The stock remote filter was mounted with the opening "up" behind the driver's side headlight. What a joy to change oil & filter! No ramps, SUPER EASY filter removal, prefill and install.....

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I had an '89 S-15 Jimmy with that engine/setup. Nice.

 

[cos]

For engines with oil filters mounted "upside down" or an angle close to that I still prefill the filter before I do anything else then top it off a bit later. Before I screw it on I'll pour out the excess - you'd be surprised

how much the filter media will hold. Unfortunately I can't prefill a Motorcraft FL-2005 that is used on my '99 Ford Zetec 2.0 L4 engine. There is a spring loaded one way valve which blocks the center tube and requires oil pressure to compress the spring and allow oil to flow around it. It's normal (I've cut 'em open), the design keeps the filter completely full of oil, I presume for better protection during start-up.

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by cos:
...you'd be surprised

how much the filter media will hold. ..

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Likely hold even more if you leave the prefilled filter in the freezer overnight. Thread it on moderately and tighten after it thaws though.

 

[Chimay]

filter in the freezer overnightLikely hold even more if you leave the prefilled . Thread it on moderately and tighten after it thaws though.

Now that is just crazy.

 

[Gary Allan]

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Likely hold even more if you leave the prefilled filter in the freezer overnight. Thread it on moderately and tighten after it thaws though.

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How come I never get to play these freezer games (audio visions "they never let poor gary play in any oil-freezer games). TallPaul ...you've been holding out on me here. I never knew of your freezer fetish

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Now that is just crazy.

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You make that sound like such a bad thing.

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by Gary Allan:
How come I never get to play these freezer games (audio visions "they never let poor gary play in any oil-freezer games). TallPaul ...you've been holding out on me here. I never knew of your freezer fetish

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It helps to have two refridgerators. Wife never looks in the one in the basement.

Kids will snitch on me though if they see it.

"Happy Jack" by the Who, I believe was the real tune for your "they never let poor gary play in any oil-freezer games."

A real eye opener is two jars in the freezer overnight, one with straight 40, the other with 10w40. Next morning take them out and tilt them simultaneously 90 degrees. In a second or two the 10w40 will be on the jar's side, but the straight 40 ....

 

[Chimay]

Well not crazy, just interesting fun!

 

[k1xv]

I prefill if convenient. But I don't think that any significant "wear" occurs in the 1 to 3 seconds if you don't. There should be sufficient oil between mating surfaces to keep metal from touching metal until the pressure builds up.

 

[Tremo]

I always prefill the filter on my SBC, it's easy, and since it mounts threads-up, none spills out. Filter is full when I fire the engine after the oil change.

I even do some prefilling on my wife's Escort filter, even though it mounts horizontally. You can still get some in there and soak it into the media.

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by Chimay:
Well not crazy, just interesting fun!

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I knew all along you meant crazy, like the beatnicks (predecessors of the hippies) meant it back about 40 years ago--cool, that is.

 

[Chimay]

Well I am sure the freezer trick works I just lost half the oil I prefilled into the filter changing my oil yesterday.

 

[loudist]

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Originally posted by TallPaul:

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Originally posted by Chimay:
Well not crazy, just interesting fun!

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I knew all along you meant crazy, like the beatnicks (predecessors of the hippies) meant it back about 40 years ago--cool, that is.

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Maynard G. Krebbs on the Dobie Gillis show.
Cool, like crazy, man.
Trivia: Who played Maynard?
(No cheating by doing an internet search.)

[ December 19, 2004, 06:20 PM: Message edited by: loudist ]

 

[Chryslerman]

I have both a Chrysler 2.5L and a 3.5L and they both have filters that mount straight sideways on the block. No way to prefill without it pouring out as I try and get them mounted.

 

[SHOZ]

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Originally posted by loudist:
Originally posted by TallPaul:

Trivia: Who played Maynard?
(No cheating by doing an internet search.)

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Gilligan aka Bob Denver?

I have the Coil On Plug design ignition coils. I extreme temperature tested them by first putting them in the oven a 200F and seeing what the resistance was then put them in the freezer after they had cooled to room temp.

 

[seotaji]

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I feel the pain of RTexasF with the 04 Accord although I have 91 Accord. The filter located just the same as the 04. I did an oil change for a 00 and it is the same location. I hate Honda, they make everything difficult for DIY because you have to bring it to the dealer!

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I feel your pain. It is an absolute mess to change 4cyl accord oil.

The V6's on the other hand are GREAT. If you wear gloves, there really isn't any mess to speak of.

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by Chryslerman:
I have both a Chrysler 2.5L and a 3.5L and they both have filters that mount straight sideways on the block. No way to prefill without it pouring out as I try and get them mounted.

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It's probably a matter of access. My Ford 300 cid straight six has so much room I change the filter from above. I fill it nearly brim full and hold it vertical until I am right at the mounting stud. A quick flip horizontal and screw it on. Very little loss and the pan is still there from pulling the old filter.

 

[cos]

TallPaul,

I wanted to see if reg 5W30 (FormulaShell) poured as easily as syn 10W30 (Mobil 1) after being in the freezer all night. They poured at the same rate, at least to the naked eye and felt the same when shook. I was surprised that they weren't thicker at 0 F - no way could you use your freezer trick to "hold in" more oil in a filter - it would pour right out. It would definitely work with a straight 30W though. I tried to drain 30W out of my mower in Nov once, temp was probabaly about 40 F. Well that was just a bit more entertaining then watching paint dry. I then ran it for 10 mins just to get it warm enough to allow the oil to flow out - I wanted fresh oil in it for winter storage.