What cars come standard with oil gauges?

[Jim Allen]

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Jim I thought you were more of a dino oil guy for cost reasons particularly compared to an expensive oil like RP; did someone give it to you? I too am gobsmacked to here RP would last anywhere that long without shearing.


Yes, I was given some to test and you can see some of the earlier UOAs in the appropriate area. It went 7.5K without shearing an iota, so we'll see when it's tested again at 10K. I have one more fill of the stuff but I am going to run an experiment with 10W30 in my 5.4L Ford when the OCI comes up. Looking for a mixed fleet oil I can use in everything here on the Twin Oaks Farm. The 10W30 viscosity comes close to fitting all my equipment, I'm just concerned about VCT operation in the Ford so I will datalog VCT ops, as well as oil pressure & temp to see what happens. If I have to drain it early, I'll put it into a clean jug and use it in a tractor.

I am a dino guy for cost reasons but don't need convincing that syns can be good oils. It's just that when I crunch the numbers, even with the advantages inherent in a PAO syn, it doesn't crunch for me... at least as it regards my goal of a "one-size fits all" oil for my "fleet.." 10K miles is about two years of driving on the truck. To reach the required OCI hours on my tractors takes as long as three years. I have verified that dino oils can do that and I don't doubt a syn could... but pushing past three years makes me pause. I have enough bypass filter setups now to equip the major portion of the fleet (except the Honda Accord) and that might be a possible answer too, but the financial logic is; "If a dino does the job well, why spend too much more on a syn?"

 

[Jim Allen]

Lots of good gauges on the market. In some cases, all you need is a programmer of a OBDII reader, like the UntraGauge or ScangaugeII, which tap into the engines PCM and read off the inputs it uses, which bypass the "neutered" gauges (I loved that!). I have both a Gryphon programmer and a buch of analog gauges from Isspro... the PowerMax system which allows you to run up to 29 gauges on two wires. Google Isspro to learn more. Anyway, my name is Jim and I'm a Gaugeohaulic.

 

[A_Harman]

You're a sick man, Jim. But at least you recognize your gaugeaholism.

Apparently you haven't been infected with the endemic BITOG Get-The-Best-Oil-I-Possibly-Can Disorder.

 

[A_Harman]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
My '02 Camaro has oil pressure, but not oil temperature.


Yes, but I've never had the chance to test the accuracy of mine (given how totally useless our coolant temp gauges are, accuracy-wise

).

I wish I could do an accurate digital; oil temp and pressure gauge, and coolant temp gauge without spending more than the car is worth on them!
(I wish I could even get the oil temp and pressure to read out on my PLX Kiwi WIFI/Ipod Touch 4 Rev/Dashboard Command apps combo, through the OBD 2 port, but NO SUCH LUCK.

)

I would go the expense, and bother, of an AiM Sports (or MoTeC, although I've heard some negative things about their products, sorry Shannow) digital cluster myself, except that at least for now, this car has to remain street/draconian NJ motor vehicle law legal.
This just cannot be done on OBD2 vehicles without the actual factory dash/cluster and requisite MIL/SES/SVS idiot lights.

Maybe you could put on a Scangauge?
I've been relatively satisfied with the behavior of my Camaro's gauges. The one time I severely overheated it on the track, to the point where the Check Engine light came on, and the engine went into limp-home mode. At this point the coolant temp gauge was deep in the red, close to 260F.
Then after that episode, the oil pressure gauge would not go above 30psi when the engine was warmed up. I sniffed the dipstick, and the oil smelled fuelish, indicating to me that the injection system had injected excess fuel to help cool the engine. When I got home, I changed the oil and filter, and pressure returned to normal.

 

[Jim 5]

Originally Posted By: Jim Allen
Anyway, my name is Jim and I'm a Gaugeohaulic.


I'll say. But then most of us wouldn't be here analyzing UOAs and oil performance if we weren't a little OCD. There's worse brands of "oholism" than the kinds we see here on BITOG.

And anyway, I kind of get why you would like doing that multiple gauge project!

Must look great at night. How about posting a shot of the night time dash appearance?

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: Jim Allen
Lots of good gauges on the market. In some cases, all you need is a programmer of a OBDII reader, like the UntraGauge or ScangaugeII, which tap into the engines PCM and read off the inputs it uses, which bypass the "neutered" gauges (I loved that!). I have both a Gryphon programmer and a buch of analog gauges from Isspro... the PowerMax system which allows you to run up to 29 gauges on two wires. Google Isspro to learn more. Anyway, my name is Jim and I'm a Gaugeohaulic.

Your gaugeaholism is COOL! (And that Blue Oval pick'emup is not a Power Stroke(correct??), where you usually see a lot of gauges, albeit still not that many, usually.)

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
My '02 Camaro has oil pressure, but not oil temperature.


Yes, but I've never had the chance to test the accuracy of mine (given how totally useless our coolant temp gauges are, accuracy-wise

).

I wish I could do an accurate digital; oil temp and pressure gauge, and coolant temp gauge without spending more than the car is worth on them!
(I wish I could even get the oil temp and pressure to read out on my PLX Kiwi WIFI/Ipod Touch 4 Rev/Dashboard Command apps combo, through the OBD 2 port, but NO SUCH LUCK.

)

I would go the expense, and bother, of an AiM Sports (or MoTeC, although I've heard some negative things about their products, sorry Shannow) digital cluster myself, except that at least for now, this car has to remain street/draconian NJ motor vehicle law legal.
This just cannot be done on OBD2 vehicles without the actual factory dash/cluster and requisite MIL/SES/SVS idiot lights.

Maybe you could put on a Scangauge?
I've been relatively satisfied with the behavior of my Camaro's gauges. The one time I severely overheated it on the track, to the point where the Check Engine light came on, and the engine went into limp-home mode. At this point the coolant temp gauge was deep in the red, close to 260F.
Then after that episode, the oil pressure gauge would not go above 30psi when the engine was warmed up. I sniffed the dipstick, and the oil smelled fuelish, indicating to me that the injection system had injected excess fuel to help cool the engine. When I got home, I changed the oil and filter, and pressure returned to normal.


By Scangauge do you mean a hand-held, OBD2 plug in device which also reads/clears codes, or are you speaking of something else?? (If it is the hand helds, their display texts are WAAYYYY too tiny for me to read live, streaming data from while driving, EVEN the ones with the largest, backlit, displays!! Getting old s****!!)

When Diablo Sport finally releases their Trinity programmer/scan & gauge tool for OUR non-CAN BUS cars (they claim by late May), I will check out the display size. (It would be cool to be able to set individual parameters/tunes, and have all of the other live streaming data info as well!!!)

 

[Bruce_Anderson]

Be careful with oil pressure gauges! My '06 Mazda MX-5 has a gauge, but it reads a computer simulation of oil pressure. It responds to RPM and will go to zero in the absence of pressure, but thats it! It does not respond to oil viscosity. I didn't believe this until I checked it out.

 

[123Saab]

I think I will try out one of these eventually.....
http://www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/index.htm

I've read about it quite a bit on other forums, And it seems to be gaining traction quite a bit.

Who knows, But for the money if it works it's a pretty good deal.

(Probably made in China, And that bothers me to a point...)

 

[Corvette Owner]

Corvettes (1997-2004 anyway) come with following analog gauges: speedometer, tachometer, oil pressure, water temperature, voltage, gas gauge.

The following can be read via DIC (driver information center)in digital numbers. Oil temperature, oil pressure, each tire pressure, water temperature, voltage, average speed, average mph, cruise speed set at, instant mpg, 2 trip odometers, total vehicle miles.

 

[CharlieJ]

My Rx-7 has an oil pressure gauge.

 

[Jim Allen]

I put an Ultagauge in out Honda and it's a heck of a product. Smaller than a Scangauge and with more features. Cheaper too. Available features in both the Ultragauge and Scangauge depend upon the vehicle and what info is available through the PCM and the OBDII port.

My truck is an '05 F150... 5.4L gasser. I'm about to reconfigure and lose the 3-gauge pod just for aesthetics. Because each of the Isspro gauges are chipped to read only certain signals on the data stream (remember it's only two wires for all the gauges) you can move them around as needed.

 

[Iancoleman]

Most Chryslers that I've owned had them My 84 GMC van had it but was optional. not sure about fords but GM usually had the idiot light standard.

 

[lexus114]

Originally Posted By: Jim Allen
Lots of good gauges on the market. In some cases, all you need is a programmer of a OBDII reader, like the UntraGauge or ScangaugeII, which tap into the engines PCM and read off the inputs it uses, which bypass the "neutered" gauges (I loved that!). I have both a Gryphon programmer and a buch of analog gauges from Isspro... the PowerMax system which allows you to run up to 29 gauges on two wires. Google Isspro to learn more. Anyway, my name is Jim and I'm a Gaugeohaulic.

That thing has more gauges than a Freightliner!!