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I have 2004 Nissan maxima n I have aem intake. I have hole on intake so I put metal tape until I get new intake.

Anyway this car never give better gas milage ever I drive 100 miles a days.

Mods: aem cai,Greddy cat back,reflashed ecu w/stock timing,ngk idirium step 1 colder plugs, n bc racing coilover.

Idk if coil pack giving bad gas mileage cuz I never changed them.

I have 100,000 miles on transmission n 30,000 miles on the motor.
 
are any of the mods recent? do you have access to an OBD II scan tool that has live data feed? with that you can easily check the coolant temp (to make sure its not too low) and also watch the voltage out on the O2 sensors (upstream) to ensure they are still bouncing quickly all across the range. pull one plug and see what color deposits are on it
 
What kinds of scan tool should I get cheaper I want it included everything about engine?

I chafed the plugs a week ago but I never change the coil wires or coil pack?
 
Proper back pressure is required from the exhaust system to get good gas mileage. To little back pressure will kill gas mileage on some engines. It is a common complaint from people who add large diameter exhaust systems to pickup trucks to complain that there gas mileage is now very bad. This is because those engines do not have enough back pressure with a large diameter exhaust.

The vehicle manufactures put many hours of engineering into choosing the exhaust for each vehicle.

People who change the vehicles design often fail to take into account all the things those changes effect.

One of the things that I think people often over-look is the cooling system. Most vehicles put out about 1/3 of the fuels energy as power to the wheels, 1/3 as heat in the exhaust system, and 1/3 as engine compartment heat consisting of heat from all parts of the engine and also heat from the radiator. It is amazing that people think they can increase the amount of fuel energy being burned and increase power to the wheels, but fail to realize that the amount of heat that the engine compartment must reject (including the radiator) will increase by the same percentage.

Some engines are so sensitive in the set up that a simple change such as a K&N air filter will kill gas mileage. Something like going from 33 MPG to 22 just because a K&N air filter was put on.

The tire choice (assuming they are properly inflated) is a real big deal with respect to gas mileage. Again some vehicles can have a big change just by tire choice such as 33 with one type, and 22 with another. Kind of like running a marathon in light weight running shoes vs winter boots. The weight of the wheels used is also important when it comes to gas mileage. Every time the vehicle accelerates you are using engine energy to get the rotational mass of all 4 wheels spun up to speed, and when you brake that energy is lost. Wheels with high rotational inertia kill gas mileage (except in hybrids that convert the rotational energy back into stored energy).

Your best bet would be to change the vehicle back to stock and look at the gas mileage, then make any mods one at a time and check gas mileage after each mod.
 
This issue is threefold:

1) The AEM hot air intake is the first part of the problem. Often the factory induction system is fully capable of providing more than adequate airflow to a stock or mostly stock engine. "Cold Air Intakes" are rarely that, and the polished aluminum tubing acts more as a heat sink for the heat generated in the engine compartment, increasing the temperature of the intake charge. These systems also draw their air from an already hot engine compartment, compounding the problem. The factory airbox draws its air from the wheel well, cowl, or front airdam and is much cooler and denser than that found in the engine compartment. All these factors will contribute to a loss of power to the wheels but an increase in perceived power due to that "intake sound" that one gets with an aftermarket intake.

2) The GReddy cat back. What Jim calls a loss of backpressure I call a loss of exhaust velocity. This occurs because the increased pipe diameter, while increasing maximum flow, will decrease low speed exhaust flow due to loss of velocity through the pipe. This causes a decrease in low speed torque (or an upward shift of the power curve, however you like to see it) with, at best, a corresponding increase in top end power. The exhaust system also generates a sound pleasing to the user, who gets on the throttle more often to hear and show off this newfound noise generator. Due to the loss of low end torque, the user also has to maintain higher RPM's longer to generate the same power as before. These factors lead to a decrease in fuel economy (as seen by Jim in truck owners).

3) The tune. The real question is, is this a custom tune created with the car on a chassis dyno, or is a canned tune from a "tuner"? And why is the timing still stock? If this is a power tune, then it would make sense to bring in as much timing as soon as the engine will allow (avoiding detonation) to generate power, along with a remap of the fuel curve. Something make me think this "tune" may not be much better than tricking the ECT sensor or the MAP sensor to make the engine dump more fuel for more "power", while simultaneously decreasing power under the curve, fuel economy, and the size of your wallet.

My recommendations: Dump the CAI and the tune and keep your foot out of it and you should be able to improve your fuel economy. If you really think that the AEM is gaining you power, do a little test. Hook a vacuum gauge to the intake tube and attach it to the windshield so that you (or preferably a passenger) can see it while driving. Take the car on a few WOT runs and see if it ever moves. If it doesn't, then the tube is not a restriction and can be left alone. My $1.50...
 
Thank u Jim n saarth!

My car is not tune n I want to later. But the reason my timing is stock is bec I have nos 75 shot n I haven't been spraying for almost 8 months n my foot been easy everydays. I used to have advance timing later after nos installed technosquare.com putting timing back to stock (15).

I forgot to tell u that I also have 20" rims n I used 93 shell gas.

On maxima.org forum people getting 30 mpg n up n I'm gonna post the website here later
 
Back pressure? NEVER!
No engine likes back pressure, ever!
A larger exhaust will create MORE back pressure at slow speeds , because of the volume/amount of gas that is greater, and had to be pushed out. Thus less than peak flow is achieved.
When revving high with full throttle, the larger exhaust has less back pressure than a restricting stock skinny exhaust.

Anyway, a computer flash that has STOCK timing? What's the point?
Put the normal plugs back in. Cold plugs are for NOx or serious stuff like that.
Unless the intake has leaks, it should not affect the part throttle mileage. It is above the throttle plate, how can it at cruise conditions?
 
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My intake have hole n I did put metal tape around it. It that mean intake leak or u mean intake mainfold leak?
 
While I think of it as back pressure, and it is related to back pressure, Saatr put it in better terms as exhaust velocity. A wide open exhaust is not the optimum exhaust for the best low end torque and over all MPG. There is something about exhaust velocity and the rpm's. It can be very tricky.

Again, people who put very large diameter exhaust systems on pick-up trucks end up with a big drop in MPG. Sure you get more high end flow and more high end HP. But if you want over all MPG, a large diameter exhaust system made for big flow is NOT the way to go.
 
But Greddy sp2 is made for my car from Greddy exhaust factory. I don't have 3rd cat which go on y-pipe. U mean that back pressure if so I'm going to buy raclinglinepeformance y-pipe wit cat later.

When I'm putting y pipe n I'm also b puting exhaust cutout. Will that change my air/fuel?
 
Rohan - Your AF ratio should be controlled buy your O2 sensors when cruising, and the predetermined computer setting/mixture at WOT.
Intake leaks in the manifold or upper pipe will cause running problems. The air is not being metered properly - it is bypassing the air flow sensor[MAF].
ALL vacuum lines, connections, PCV system intake must be perfect. A tedious visual inspection is best, piece by piece.
Spraying short burst of carb cleaner while running can help find a vacuum leak. A change in idle will be noted when you spray near a leak.

But what about that programming? I am not sure of your tune.
How about changing it back to stock for a while?
 
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This is what they did to my ecu when I send it off to them.

He tld me what mods I have I tld him aem intake,cat-back,no cat on y-pipe. He said okay. Later after 8 months I tld him we putting 75 shot nos n he said we puting timing back to "stock" which is 15. He said he can't retarded timing.

So after 6 more month I never drove my car hard I been easy all the time n I never got good mielage. Idk if colder plug can hurt my gas meilage or I got hole on my inatake 2 weeks ago n I put metal tape around after 1 week later I found out I gotta hole on my intake, so I'm waiting to get new one come in next week.

After that I'll clean my jet maf sensor n put in new fujita intake on.
 
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