I agree!
Well this is unfortunate ... (pet misfortune)
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It's sad when they have to go, but I'd rather die quickly than waste away pumped full of chemicals, and so if one of my animals is dying I'll just let them go.
At this point there's no much you can do other than ride it out. From what I've been able to gather all but one or two vaccines are adjuvanted and obviously genetics plays a role. The father of this cat died of cancer at around 10 yrs of age but we don't know what type because the breeder passed away, from cancer, shortly thereafter.
Agree. Our guys are indoor 95% of the time but in our area if you need to bring them in the vets require (state law) that they get vaccinated if they're not up to date so your kinda stuck.
Ya. As I said in my original post the occurrence rate is 1:10k-30k. I've also seen a stat of 1:5k. Obviously when it comes to rabies etc it's state law which drives the whole thing. Georgia apparently is every year.
That law is enforced???
I suppose it is. I've never had a vet discourage us from getting one although decades ago we had a vet, who was a close family friend, and a pioneer in treating horses tell us privately yearly shots were unnecessary.
It's more money for the vet, that's why they want to do it. They know that indoor cats don't need shots.
If you’re like me and you’re one of the people who tries to minimize the amount of vaccines you subject your dog (or cat) to, ask your Veterinarian about titer (pronounced like: “tighter”) testing rather than more vaccines.
"Vaccine Titer Tests for Dogs" - https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/health/vaccine-titer-tests-for-dogs/
A titer test will test the animals blood to determine if the animal has sufficient antibodies to protect them and, if the blood test indicates the sufficient presence of antibodies, further vaccines are unnecessary and, potentially, harmful to the animal!
I live in Sacramento, California and they allow your pet to be licensed without insisting on the actual vaccination. If you have a rabies titer test performed and the results clearly show your pet has the antibodies in their blood to protect them against contracting rabies, the County will issue your pet license.
The two (2) Veterinary Labs within the United States that are best known for titer testing are Kansas State Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory - https://ksvdl.org/laboratories/rabies-laboratory/core-vaccine-titer-screen-info.html and University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine - https://www.vetmed.wisc.edu/lab/cavids/titer-testing-service/
For more information - Dr. Karen Becker and Dr. Ronald Schultz on Pet Vaccines -
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"Vaccine Titer Tests for Dogs" - https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/health/vaccine-titer-tests-for-dogs/
A titer test will test the animals blood to determine if the animal has sufficient antibodies to protect them and, if the blood test indicates the sufficient presence of antibodies, further vaccines are unnecessary and, potentially, harmful to the animal!
I live in Sacramento, California and they allow your pet to be licensed without insisting on the actual vaccination. If you have a rabies titer test performed and the results clearly show your pet has the antibodies in their blood to protect them against contracting rabies, the County will issue your pet license.
The two (2) Veterinary Labs within the United States that are best known for titer testing are Kansas State Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory - https://ksvdl.org/laboratories/rabies-laboratory/core-vaccine-titer-screen-info.html and University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine - https://www.vetmed.wisc.edu/lab/cavids/titer-testing-service/
For more information - Dr. Karen Becker and Dr. Ronald Schultz on Pet Vaccines -
Ed
They really do last that long. There is a feline rabies that is only good for one year. It’s very safe and non reactive but they never could get 3 year approval. Vets loved to use it. The company collected site sarcomas from all over the country to determine if any were caused by their feline rabies vax. From the tumor they could tell which brand of rabies vax caused it due to the cell line used.
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Give your wife a hug and enjoy the couple of years you guys have left with your bud, OP. We have 3 shelter/rescue cats ourselves - and always have. At some point they of course pass on, but they had a loving, cared about life. I always remind myself of that and my wife when that time comes. We got our current 3 after our previous 3 passed all within a year of each other at around 17 years. They left a huge hole in our lives, but our current 3 have really brought a lot of joy to us as well. One of them was feral and terrified of people. But he has come so far, and become quite a social butterfly in our home, haha. In addition to the companionship we get I also get a lot of joy out of knowing we saved them from a likely bad outcome. They're indoor only cats.
I couldn't agree more.
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So sad when the best dog-ever passes away. We went thru this 13 months ago with Roscoe (<pictured left<)
I am the one that still cries once in a while. We replaced Roscoe with similar breed / another six week-old puppy named Henry. But they are complete opposites of one another. Since biting me twice in the same 24hr period, Henry now senses I am not thrilled to have him around the home. He bit when I tried pulling a balled-up paper towel out of his mouth and again later that night when I violently woke-up fast from one of my many paranormal dreams and it startled Henry laying next to us - thus biting me hard on my bare foot.
So I totally stopped playing with him and it's seldom that I pet him. I just can't seem to break-out any love with this disobedient, meanish dog. Luckily, my wife finds interest in Henry and the dog shadows her all day-long..... night-time couch-buddies with her too.
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It takes time. Henry is his own, not a replacement. You will bond with him when you’re ready. I feel you. It’s tough.
I will no longer tolerate a biting dog. Had one once as a young man, ended up with blood poisoning (infection) multiple times. Over 12 years, he bit me in the middle of the night when I brushed against him by accident, then again during a thunderstorm and again when I left for work and tried to put him back inside. Won't ever do that again.
I absolutely love a good dog, and feel they are the most wonderful creatures in existence. No question a biter is a huge risk, but that's not the only issue. I have a pup for companionship, to be with me everywhere I go and to enjoy life, why would I want to suffer 15 years of living with, feeding and caring for an unsafe, temperamental animal that I can't love or trust?
This one, a Norwegian Elkhound, is an absolutely wonderful companion:
UPDATE:
Surgery was 8 days ago and other than having a 10" incision (spine to belly down right side) he's doing well. The tumor itself looked like an oyster that was the size of a large lemon.
The first 3-4 days were really tough on us all because of the side effects from the medication (Onsior). Lets just say he wasn't interested in using his litterbox for those 3-4 days. While I was diligent with the small carpet cleaner (Bissell Little Green Machine) and enzymic cleaners we're going to have to clean the carpet in that room with something more industrial.
We just found out that the tumor itself is low grade and our vet got full margins so hopefully we'll get a year or more out of him.
All we have to do now is keep him from jumping because he has another 6 days before the stiches come out.
Surgery was 8 days ago and other than having a 10" incision (spine to belly down right side) he's doing well. The tumor itself looked like an oyster that was the size of a large lemon.
The first 3-4 days were really tough on us all because of the side effects from the medication (Onsior). Lets just say he wasn't interested in using his litterbox for those 3-4 days. While I was diligent with the small carpet cleaner (Bissell Little Green Machine) and enzymic cleaners we're going to have to clean the carpet in that room with something more industrial.
We just found out that the tumor itself is low grade and our vet got full margins so hopefully we'll get a year or more out of him.
All we have to do now is keep him from jumping because he has another 6 days before the stiches come out.
I wish you luck. This part of pet ownership sucks.
I had to put down my cat, who was 18 years old, last weekend. He had been on medication for a hyper thyroid for several years, and the medication wasn't really working well anymore. He lost a lot of weight and had a heart murmur which continued to worsen over time. When I took him there to put him down the vet said his heart function was very bad and he probably wouldn't last more than a couple more days anyway. He was tough as nails man, he had been through a lot.
I had to put down my cat, who was 18 years old, last weekend. He had been on medication for a hyper thyroid for several years, and the medication wasn't really working well anymore. He lost a lot of weight and had a heart murmur which continued to worsen over time. When I took him there to put him down the vet said his heart function was very bad and he probably wouldn't last more than a couple more days anyway. He was tough as nails man, he had been through a lot.