We gonna take Gronks knees out!

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I didn't see the interview, and I don't know the exact words.

By watching ESPN this morning, I saw Stephen A. Smith, who has a rap sheet of his own, who constantly plays the race card on ESPN, talk about a Denver Bronco who claims they "are gonna take Gronks knees out!" in the AFC title game.

Apparently, targeting another player for injury is OK, in this case.

I have to wonder if a defender who happens to be white, claimed he was "gonna take Cam Newtons knees out!", what would happen? I believe the NFL would immediately suspend the white player for life, brand him "the dirtiest ever", and sue him in Federal court, and possibly want him arrested on his doorstep for a "hate crime".
 
Patriots will spank the broncos, and prolly win the superbowl!

I hope everyone exhibits good sportsmanship, the ref's are on to it and will address it if they see it.
 
for great NFL players you need look no farther than

Vontaze Burfect and adam "crackman" jones.
 
Vikings vs Saints playoff game 2009. After the bounty hunting came to light, the Saints were heavily penalized. Funny thing is, refs never called personal fouls during the game.
 
Originally Posted By: Inspecktor
Funny thing is, refs never called personal fouls during the game.


Correct, and another funny thing is that Favre himself "had no problem" with the Saints style of play.

The NFL is now a pathetic joke.
 
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
I didn't see the interview, and I don't know the exact words.

By watching ESPN this morning, I saw Stephen A. Smith, who has a rap sheet of his own, who constantly plays the race card on ESPN, talk about a Denver Bronco who claims they "are gonna take Gronks knees out!" in the AFC title game.

Apparently, targeting another player for injury is OK, in this case.

I have to wonder if a defender who happens to be white, claimed he was "gonna take Cam Newtons knees out!", what would happen? I believe the NFL would immediately suspend the white player for life, brand him "the dirtiest ever", and sue him in Federal court, and possibly want him arrested on his doorstep for a "hate crime".


Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
I didn't see the interview, and I don't know the exact words.



Enough said.


Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Wemay, so, you are saying this is false??? ESPN made it up?


We just need to be careful when quoting others. Now, concerning a TE vs QB. We know this is a moot analogy.

1. All Quaterbacks are protected from hits below the waist while in the pocket.

2. When you have a TE that is 6-6 coming across the middle and you are 5-10 DB, you're not going to try and hit him high. Plus, you cannot go anywhere near his head.

And for the record, i've heard Stephen A chastise Whites, Blacks, Greens and Blues.
 
Originally Posted By: wemay


We just need to be careful when quoting others. Now, concerning a TE vs QB. We know this is a moot analogy.

1. All Quaterbacks are protected from hits below the waist while in the pocket.

2. When you have a TE that is 6-6 coming across the middle and you are 5-10 DB, you're not going to try and hit him high. Plus, you cannot go anywhere near his head.

And for the record, i've heard Stephen A chastise Whites, Blacks, Greens and Blues.


Nothing is moot about this.

1) Newton is KNOWN as a runner. He breaks loose lots, and turns into a RB. SO, maybe a Cardinal could state they want to "take Cams knees out". Thats would be OK, right?

2)Most DBs are over 5'10", but so what? Gronk has a size advantage, Cam Newton has great size AND speed. Thats how sports works. Does this legalize targeting for injury???

SAS, and the NFL would have a stroke if a white defender said the same about Newton.
 
It is too bad the stooge Goodell has put rules in so DB's have to take out receivers knees and end their careers because they can no longer go high for fear they will get flagged for helmut to helmut.

Gronk in his witty fashion tweeted back that the Broncos Defenders are all good at going down low
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Gronk is awesome and smart! Has never spent a dime of his salary the past 6 years, instead has invested it all and lived off his endorsements!
 
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
I didn't see the interview, and I don't know the exact words.

By watching ESPN this morning, I saw Stephen A. Smith, who has a rap sheet of his own, who constantly plays the race card on ESPN, talk about a Denver Bronco who claims they "are gonna take Gronks knees out!" in the AFC title game.

Apparently, targeting another player for injury is OK, in this case.

I have to wonder if a defender who happens to be white, claimed he was "gonna take Cam Newtons knees out!", what would happen? I believe the NFL would immediately suspend the white player for life, brand him "the dirtiest ever", and sue him in Federal court, and possibly want him arrested on his doorstep for a "hate crime".


I am assuming here that what the player said is being misrepresented. NO player in their right mind publicly says we are going to take out player X's knees. That is like publicly saying you are going to rob a bank. Just stupid if you actually plan to do it.

More than likely it is more a case of saying they will have to tackle at/target the knees/knee area to bring him down. You can not discount the extreme size advantage Gronkowski has over the average DB, Safety, and most LB's that have tio cover that guy.

NFL.Com lists Gronkowski at 6' 6" and 265 lbs. That is the size of a lot of DE's in the league. Players on D are so limited in where they can hit these days, down near the knees is the only place a smaller player can take down someone of Gronkowski's size. That doesn't mean they are dirty or trying to hurt him. Just self preservation.

What would you do if you had to take him down? If you try and hit him in the mid section, wrap him up, and tackle him YOU are going to be the one hurt and run over if you are only 5' 10 and 200lbs. Only smart move, if you are a lot smaller, is to hit him in the thigh to shin area and try to trip him up. Unfortunately, that means the knee is in the middle.

Denver's Defensive Player sizes...

DB/S = The tallest available DB/S for Denver is Talib @ 6' 1". The rest are all 5'10" or 5'11". Weight ranges run from the lightest at 187lbs to the heaviest at 214 lbs. So the DB/S's for Denver are at an extreme size disadvantage vs Gronkowski.

OLB/ILB = The tallest available LB for Denver is Ware @ 6' 4". The rest are all 6' 1" - 6' 3". Weights ranges run from the lightest at 226lbs to the heaviest at 258lbs( also Ware ).

Starting OLB's Ware( 6' 4" 258lbs ) and Miller( 6' 3" 250lbs )are the only 2 players Denver has, in positions that play coverage, that really match up with Gronkowski and he is still taller and heavier. He is also faster and neither of those LB's are great in pass coverage. If they have to spend the day covering him he will have a field day. They need to rush Brady which is to their strengths.

Take those 2 players out and taking him down, without multiple players tackling him, will require low, but legal, hits. Just how it is.

I really do not believe anyone said they were going to purposely target his knees to injure him. They were probably talking about that area so they have a chance to tackle him without the defensive player getting hurt is more what I believe the player meant.
 
Nobody wants to answer the question:

What if a white Cardinal defender said that about Cam Newton? I don't think anyone wants to go there. Dead silence.
 
he is trying to sow the seed so Gronk wont go over the middle, but some of these safetys have purposely gone low trying to take out his knees and he has had surgery on them in the past along with his arm and back.
 
This is the kinda stuff that makes offensive players get loaded for bear.

We were wondering why Amendola lit that guy up. Its because the guy is a punk that needs it.

Its also why Beckham messed that other punk up.

Turnabout is a [censored].
 
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
This is the kinda stuff that makes offensive players get loaded for bear.

We were wondering why Amendola lit that guy up. Its because the guy is a punk that needs it.

Its also why Beckham messed that other punk up.

Turnabout is a [censored].



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