With respect, maybe be more concerned about the waste that goes on when people fail to change their oil regularly. It seems more harmful than doing it too much.
Wasteful oil changes
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I've been on a 7500 OCI on my car and once every 6 months (now every year) with my truck. It's not wasteful sticking with the manufacturers recommendations and using quality first world products.
Now Patman, don't get defensive. You started this idiotic thread. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Another annoying trend is someone with 4 cars, two of which are Corvettes, one of which is a brand new Corvette, posting about wasteful oil changes. Since you can only drive one car at a time, having more than one is wasteful. Therefore, EVERY oil change you do on those THREE extra cars is wasteful.
If someone wants to change their oil every ten miles or every ten million miles, it's not mine or anyone else's business.
First of all, you can't read very well because one of my Corvettes isn't even built yet, and when it is, I will be trading the other one. And having 3 cars is not a waste, one is my wife's, one is my bad weather car and the Corvette is for good weather only. Not a waste. But thanks for your idiotic comment.
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Another annoying trend is someone with 4 cars, two of which are Corvettes, one of which is a brand new Corvette, posting about wasteful oil changes. Since you can only drive one car at a time, having more than one is wasteful. Therefore, EVERY oil change you do on those THREE extra cars is wasteful.
If someone wants to change their oil every ten miles or every ten million miles, it's not mine or anyone else's business.
First of all, you can't read very well because one of my Corvettes isn't even built yet, and when it is, I will be trading the other one. And having 3 cars is not a waste, one is my wife's, one is my bad weather car and the Corvette is for good weather only. Not a waste. But thanks for your idiotic comment.
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Another annoying trend is someone with 4 cars, two of which are Corvettes, one of which is a brand new Corvette, posting about wasteful oil changes. Since you can only drive one car at a time, having more than one is wasteful. Therefore, EVERY oil change you do on those THREE extra cars is wasteful.
If someone wants to change their oil every ten miles or every ten million miles, it's not mine or anyone else's business.
First of all, you can't read very well because one of my Corvettes isn't even built yet, and when it is, I will be trading the other one. And having 3 cars is not a waste, one is my wife's, one is my bad weather car and the Corvette is for good weather only. Not a waste. But thanks for your idiotic comment.
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Another annoying trend is someone with 4 cars, two of which are Corvettes, one of which is a brand new Corvette, posting about wasteful oil changes. Since you can only drive one car at a time, having more than one is wasteful. Therefore, EVERY oil change you do on those THREE extra cars is wasteful.
If someone wants to change their oil every ten miles or every ten million miles, it's not mine or anyone else's business.
First of all, you can't read very well because one of my Corvettes isn't even built yet, and when it is, I will be trading the other one. And having 3 cars is not a waste, one is my wife's, one is my bad weather car and the Corvette is for good weather only. Not a waste. But thanks for your idiotic comment.
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Originally Posted By: Gebo
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
We all need to stop eating cow. That will help the environment more than skipping an oil change here and there.
Ain't happening
x2
^ 3
Originally Posted By: Gebo
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
We all need to stop eating cow. That will help the environment more than skipping an oil change here and there.
Ain't happening
x2
^ 3
Patman
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Originally Posted By: Slick17601
I remember you posting that you would pour New GC thru your Firebird to flush it out. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
I would pour just one single quart through it, not waste 7-10 quarts of oil (the new Corvette takes 7 quarts unless it's a Grand Sport or Z and then it takes 10)
I remember you posting that you would pour New GC thru your Firebird to flush it out. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
I would pour just one single quart through it, not waste 7-10 quarts of oil (the new Corvette takes 7 quarts unless it's a Grand Sport or Z and then it takes 10)
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
So, you post on here, being incredibly judgemental. Someone turns the table on you, and they are the idiot? Rock on!
No, the difference here is that I was simply talking about wasting perfectly good oil, period. Then you came on here and first of all didn't read my signature properly (your first mistake) and then tried to tell me I'm being wasteful for owning multiple vehicles. Completely different scenario to my original topic and completely uncalled for.
I stand by my original thought in this thread, that it's completely wasteful to drain out brand new oil after it's sat in the engine during winter storage. That's the only thing I wanted to discuss in this thread, and too many people have tried to derail it and make it about something else.
SMH
So, you post on here, being incredibly judgemental. Someone turns the table on you, and they are the idiot? Rock on!
No, the difference here is that I was simply talking about wasting perfectly good oil, period. Then you came on here and first of all didn't read my signature properly (your first mistake) and then tried to tell me I'm being wasteful for owning multiple vehicles. Completely different scenario to my original topic and completely uncalled for.
I stand by my original thought in this thread, that it's completely wasteful to drain out brand new oil after it's sat in the engine during winter storage. That's the only thing I wanted to discuss in this thread, and too many people have tried to derail it and make it about something else.
SMH
I agree it's a waste of money. Perhaps it's more an attachment to ritual? I sometimes want to change my oil just to have an excuse to tinker. I don't anymore, I run 7500 OCI and find a different reason to tinker
When I worked at a shop we used to tell customers do what your owner's manual says to do regarding OCI. We also told them if using full synthetic then same OCI but they were able to go a bit farther but not 10,000 miles. If regarding winter then what the owner's manual recommends.
I end up getting very frustrated with the habits of some car owners. Its wasteful to own multiple Corvettes. Two people should be able to get by with just two Nissan Versas. Thats all anyone needs.
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Nissan Versas are boring and nobody here owns two Corvettes that I know of
Originally Posted By: anndel
When I worked at a shop we used to tell customers do what your owner's manual says to do regarding OCI. We also told them if using full synthetic then same OCI but they were able to go a bit farther but not 10,000 miles. If regarding winter then what the owner's manual recommends.
Great. That should be the professional advice coming from a service technician or any staff. If in doubt, and as you can see, there are many reasons to doubt it and a lot are legitimate one too. You should always advice to do a UOA.
When I worked at a shop we used to tell customers do what your owner's manual says to do regarding OCI. We also told them if using full synthetic then same OCI but they were able to go a bit farther but not 10,000 miles. If regarding winter then what the owner's manual recommends.
Great. That should be the professional advice coming from a service technician or any staff. If in doubt, and as you can see, there are many reasons to doubt it and a lot are legitimate one too. You should always advice to do a UOA.
Oddly, the OM of my old BMW recommends exactly this.
Oil and filter should be changed immediately before storage and then again when the car is returned to use.
I can't think of any earthly reason to do this myself and it does seem like a waste of perfectly good oil.
I think what irks the OP is the utter ignorance that such a practice demonstrates.
Oil and filter should be changed immediately before storage and then again when the car is returned to use.
I can't think of any earthly reason to do this myself and it does seem like a waste of perfectly good oil.
I think what irks the OP is the utter ignorance that such a practice demonstrates.
Hyundai and Mazda OCIs in Canada are 3750 miles or 6000 km
Originally Posted By: NH73
Originally Posted By: anndel
When I worked at a shop we used to tell customers do what your owner's manual says to do regarding OCI. We also told them if using full synthetic then same OCI but they were able to go a bit farther but not 10,000 miles. If regarding winter then what the owner's manual recommends.
Great. That should be the professional advice coming from a service technician or any staff. If in doubt, and as you can see, there are many reasons to doubt it and a lot are legitimate one too. You should always advice to do a UOA.
That seems fair and reasonable. If more shops worked that way they'd gain more respect.
Originally Posted By: anndel
When I worked at a shop we used to tell customers do what your owner's manual says to do regarding OCI. We also told them if using full synthetic then same OCI but they were able to go a bit farther but not 10,000 miles. If regarding winter then what the owner's manual recommends.
Great. That should be the professional advice coming from a service technician or any staff. If in doubt, and as you can see, there are many reasons to doubt it and a lot are legitimate one too. You should always advice to do a UOA.
That seems fair and reasonable. If more shops worked that way they'd gain more respect.
Patman
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
I think what irks the OP is the utter ignorance that such a practice demonstrates.
That's exactly what bothers me, is that people just continue to do it and recommend it to others without actually thinking about the fact that there is nothing wrong with the oil at all. I even told my wife about the scenario of people changing the oil before and after storage, and asked her "what's wrong with this picture?" and she immediately said "why would someone change the oil in the spring if they just changed it in the fall? The oil is still new"
EXACTLY!
I think what irks the OP is the utter ignorance that such a practice demonstrates.
That's exactly what bothers me, is that people just continue to do it and recommend it to others without actually thinking about the fact that there is nothing wrong with the oil at all. I even told my wife about the scenario of people changing the oil before and after storage, and asked her "what's wrong with this picture?" and she immediately said "why would someone change the oil in the spring if they just changed it in the fall? The oil is still new"
EXACTLY!
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Oddly, the OM of my old BMW recommends exactly this.
Oil and filter should be changed immediately before storage and then again when the car is returned to use.
I can't think of any earthly reason to do this myself and it does seem like a waste of perfectly good oil.
I think what irks the OP is the utter ignorance that such a practice demonstrates.
I bet an UOA done would demonstrate this practice to be a waste of oil, even if a OM tells you to do it. Notice how you said "old". I also bet no new BMW manual says that anymore.
Oddly, the OM of my old BMW recommends exactly this.
Oil and filter should be changed immediately before storage and then again when the car is returned to use.
I can't think of any earthly reason to do this myself and it does seem like a waste of perfectly good oil.
I think what irks the OP is the utter ignorance that such a practice demonstrates.
I bet an UOA done would demonstrate this practice to be a waste of oil, even if a OM tells you to do it. Notice how you said "old". I also bet no new BMW manual says that anymore.
The waste from 3k oil changes on a I4 Honda Civic pale in comparison to the monstrous carbon footprint of a gas guzzling Corvette with a 7qt sump (and its cow eating owner).. Just sayin..
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Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Hyundai and Mazda OCIs in Canada are 3750 miles or 6000 km
Here too.
Hyundai and Mazda OCIs in Canada are 3750 miles or 6000 km
Here too.
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