Was this a mistake (alignment) + caster ?

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My installer just suggested that one of the tires is defective and to rotate them around to figure out which is defective to replace it. My installer is a friend of mine who works at a Honda dealership so i'm gonna be doing the rotating on my own, i'm a senior technician at a quick lube which qualifies me to move tires around but not mount them to the rim, which is why I used him.
 
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: nfs480
ok, well, then tomorrow i'll call around and see if any of the local tire shops have a GSP9700


Call TireRack and see what they recommend. Maybe they have another way of solving the problem.

Have you contacted your installer? Perhaps he can help with this since he installed the tires.

Also, here's a website where you can locate a GSP9700:

http://www.gsp9700.com/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm

Most shops charge about $25/tire.


Haha, I used that site and it turns out that the dealership that installed my tires actually has one.
 
Well, I swapped the two fronts from side-to-side according to the tirerack site, and the car still pulled right. So I then switched the rears, and it still pulled right. No matter where I put the tires it pulled to the right just as much. Would this mean that it really is just an alignment problem after all?
 
Post a copy of the alignment print-out for us to see and maybe we can pinpoint the problem.
 
ok, here's the printout from the last alignment:

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I think your problem is with the RF caster.

Check the suspension on that corner-- upper/lower ball joints and control arms.
 
The calipers, pads, and rotors were all replaced this last summer. And I feel like that's unlikely since the car drove straight as an arrow to the shop to have the tires put on and immediately after it pulls to the right. I just can't figure it out. The alignment numbers look good, there's no play or visible damage to suspension components, moving the tires around doesn't affect the direction or intensity of the pull, and this only started after the new tires were installed.
 
I have an appointment with my mechanic for tomorrow to have it checked out, maybe he'll be able to figure it out.
 
I suppose I should answer my own question. I took it back and they re-checked it and determined to be in spec AND they did nothing about the caster. Still pulls. They said could be radial pull, and pretty much gave me the kiss-off. I'm done with them, but I will rotate the tires becasue I have actually experienced radial pull years ago which fixed the problem.
 
Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
You are rapidly running out of reasons for "pulling to the right"..


No, I think it is right there in front of us.

Cross Caster and the RF camber as a combination.
 
Originally Posted By: CapriRacer
Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
You are rapidly running out of reasons for "pulling to the right"..


No, I think it is right there in front of us.

Cross Caster and the RF camber as a combination.


Hopefully by adjusting the caster they can fix this issue as I know the camber is not adjustable on my vehicle.
 
Originally Posted By: nfs480
Hopefully by adjusting the caster they can fix this issue as I know the camber is not adjustable on my vehicle.


NOTHING is non-adjustable. It just might take some doing to get the adjustment you need - eccentric bolts, slotted holes, ....uh... bending suspension components - the list is endless, but it can (and has) been done.

So do not leave the alignment shop with ANYTHING out of spec. If the shop doesn't know what to do, find another one!
 
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Well, turns out that the car's toe was way out of alignment. My mechanic says that the new tires changed the stance of the car and affected the readings. I'm in his shop now using the wireless but once I get a copy of the readings i'll be sure to post them. He said with the steering wheel straight the tires were basically pointing to the right.
 
Well, the alignment readings seem to agree with him. All he did was adjust the toe and now the car drives straight. Here are the readings from today:
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