warm up time before driving hard (in WARM temps)

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Originally Posted By: dparm
Honda VTEC motors do not allow the cam lobe switch at low temps. I would assume a lot of variable valve timing motors do something similar to prevent damage or excess wear.


So, we've now established that many manufacturers (BMW, Subaru, Honda at least) do things differently when the engine isn't up to temp - disabling features, lowering power output, lowering redline.

Also, the mentality on this board is usually of the feeling that manufacturers aren't paranoid ENOUGH about prolonging component life because their OCIs are too long, or their recommended oils aren't good enough, or their maintenance intervals are too long, they don't have enough filters (leading everyone to install Magnefines), their transmission coolers are too small or non-existant, they don't include engine oil coolers, the list goes on and on....

Yet, these same "reckless", "careless" manufacturers who want our cars to break so we have to buy new ones sooner very often program in "warm up" factors and/or print warnings in the owner's manuals about not driving "hard" until the engine is warm.

Logic alone dictates here that IF warm up is important enough that manufacturers who are otherwise accused with not doing enough to protect our investments have actually taken steps to address it THEN it is not simply a myth that engines should still be warmed up before being driving "HARD".
 
I agree with the above comments, driving a cold engine hard off the line is not a good idea. I also don't think a 10-15 mile run before getting on an engine is needed either, at least not now with the newer engine designs. I would think a few minutes of an easy drive should be enough for a spirited highway entry, or mashing it to pass someone safely if needed.
 
Anecdotal evidence: A guy I work with has one of those "Harley Davidson" Ford 150's. Leaving the parking lot at 5 AM (we work nights), after only 15 seconds since starting, he FLOORS IT until he reaches 90 mph or so. Every day. He then backs off for a few stoplights, then FLOORS IT again until getting up on the interstate.

He has done this for 5 years that I know of. I asked what engine work he has had done (without mentioning his acceleration habits), and he said "nothing" with a straight look on his face.

I would have guessed it would have blown by now, but it hasn't.
 
I have a little green cold engine light on my car. While the light is on the engine will hold itself in the lower gears and I think the red line is reduced as well. Once the light is off then I drive it normally, WOT moments included as well.
 
Originally Posted By: Rockford Fosgate Fan
I have a little green cold engine light on my car. While the light is on the engine will hold itself in the lower gears and I think the red line is reduced as well. Once the light is off then I drive it normally, WOT moments included as well.


How long does the light take to turn green in lets say 85* F weather, vs 30* F weather?
 
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