Walmart

[JustinH]

I buy all my jeans at walmart now.

I take a 36 length, try finding that in any store without special ordering it.

I order from walmart.com, they ship direct to the store for free.

Wrangler is the brand I get, they are fine.

 

[rpn453]

Most of my T-shirts are plain black or white, and I bought them at Wal-Mart for $6.99 each. They're made in Canada. The oil I buy at Wal-Mart is also made in Canada. Anything I buy there that is made in China is probably made in China no matter where I buy it from.

Anyone who really wants to prevent the Wal-Mart model from being successful and proliferating needs to work to change the system that created it. You can't blame Wal-Mart for being successful within the rules of the game.

 

[uc50ic4more]

Originally Posted By: rpn453
You can't blame Wal-Mart for being successful within the rules of the game.


I'm not sure anyone here is *blaming* Wal-Mart; any more than we'd *blame* the crack dealer for the mess that crackheads get themselves into. They're just making money hand over fist while we destroy our own country.

We're (I think) blaming *consumers* for choosing petty savings at such innumerable expense. Destroying one's own to serve ones self. That kinda thing.

Changing the "system" or the "rules of the game" does not necessitate a revolution. We simply need to, *especially now*, prioritize differently, and author the rules of the game with our dollars.

And I am simply unable to fathom how anyone, anywhere, WANTS the Wal-Mart model to succeed. Who WANTS the identities of small towns everywhere to vanish? Who WANTS local ownership *of* the community to vanish? Who WANTS cheap cheap cheap garbage everywhere? Who WANTS minimum wage (career?!) workers in silly vests and name tags providing "customer service"? Who WANTS those who are actually skilled and qualified to be put out to pasture? Who here WANTS to be a people who use it up throw it away use it up throw it away use it up throw it away use it up throw it away use it up throw it away? Is this healthy? Is this *sane*???? Our children will never ever forgive us for being so weak, so selfish and so ignorant in repeating history as we decline. I just hope the new world powers treat our children better than we've treated those people when we were the big kid in the sandbox.

But I guess no truly great society was ever toppled from the outside, was it?

 

[Mr Nice]

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Something like 1 in 75 working people in the U.S. work at Walmart, kind of scary!


Absolutely nothing wrong with a person working at Walmart, making an honest living. Maybe they are part time college students, retired, recently laid off, just working there part time for some extra money to pay bills.....etc, etc.

 

[Liquid_Turbo]

http://www.walmartmovie.com/

In my opinion.. Walmart is evil. But I am a hypocrit and buy my oil there.

 

[rszappa1]

I see local UAW Ford workers in Wal Mart all the time near the Ford Truck Plant....Talk about pratice what you preach....

 

[uc50ic4more]

Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
Quote:
Something like 1 in 75 working people in the U.S. work at Walmart, kind of scary!


Absolutely nothing wrong with a person working at Walmart, making an honest living. Maybe they are part time college students, retired, recently laid off, just working there part time for some extra money to pay bills.....etc, etc.



1 in 75 represents a HECK of a lot more than some college kids and retirees... They're the people, perhaps, who *used* to own the local shops in their communities. They're the people who are now working there as a "career", when it's really a McJob.

 

[Tempest]

Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
Quote:
Something like 1 in 75 working people in the U.S. work at Walmart, kind of scary!


Absolutely nothing wrong with a person working at Walmart, making an honest living. Maybe they are part time college students, retired, recently laid off, just working there part time for some extra money to pay bills.....etc, etc.

The Federal government IS the largest employer in the US and is one of the few growth "industries". Now THAT is scary.

 

[oil_spaz]

Walmart exists and thrives because it fills a need: Low prices on everyday goods with one stop shopping. Many poor people benefit from Walmart's existence because they have no attractive alternative. As far as I'm concerned, Walmart is successful because they built a better mousetrap and beat the competition fair and square.

I live in the suburbs with a Walmart close by. I've seen church buses from the inner city dropping off loads of people to do some grocery shopping. In their own neighborhoods, the only choice is to shop at small mom and pop convenience stores where things cost 50% more because chain grocery stores have long since abandoned those areas.

I have alternatives but I still shop at Walmart anyway because of price. The shopping experience is poor (stuff laying in the aisles, carts all over the lot, careless employees. etc.) so I get in and out quickly. For me, it's all about the money. Most of the rural Walmarts are pretty nice.

 

[PandaBear]

What I see here as the typical Walmart employees are retirees working just to get health insurance. Walmart is one of the employers that will provide health insurance to many who are not qualified, and have lower requirement than those other box stores like Kragen or ToysRus. We can't blame Walmart if they can hire those people who would have been unemployed if left to the system as is.

Now why are there so many uninsured Americans having to work in their retirement just to get health insurance? You tell me.

 

[Tempest]

Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
Originally Posted By: rpn453
You can't blame Wal-Mart for being successful within the rules of the game.


I'm not sure anyone here is *blaming* Wal-Mart; any more than we'd *blame* the crack dealer for the mess that crackheads get themselves into. They're just making money hand over fist while we destroy our own country.

We're (I think) blaming *consumers* for choosing petty savings at such innumerable expense. Destroying one's own to serve ones self. That kinda thing.

Changing the "system" or the "rules of the game" does not necessitate a revolution. We simply need to, *especially now*, prioritize differently, and author the rules of the game with our dollars.

And I am simply unable to fathom how anyone, anywhere, WANTS the Wal-Mart model to succeed. Who WANTS the identities of small towns everywhere to vanish? Who WANTS local ownership *of* the community to vanish? Who WANTS cheap cheap cheap garbage everywhere? Who WANTS minimum wage (career?!) workers in silly vests and name tags providing "customer service"? Who WANTS those who are actually skilled and qualified to be put out to pasture? Who here WANTS to be a people who use it up throw it away use it up throw it away use it up throw it away use it up throw it away use it up throw it away? Is this healthy? Is this *sane*???? Our children will never ever forgive us for being so weak, so selfish and so ignorant in repeating history as we decline. I just hope the new world powers treat our children better than we've treated those people when we were the big kid in the sandbox.

But I guess no truly great society was ever toppled from the outside, was it?

Yes, because we should all have high paying union jobs that bankrupt the corporation and then require a government bailout in order to "save jobs".

If you are working a minimum wage job then you have put yourself their. That is the value that YOU think you are worth as you CHOOSE to stay there. Get schooling, work harder, learn and move up. Employers pay for the value that you bring to their business.

 

[oil_spaz]

Kind of off topic but here's my best BITOG related Walmart story:

Was sitting in my car listening to the radio while waiting on my wife to pick something up. I watched a guy come out of the store, pull his car over a catch basin in the middle of the lot, and drained his oil in it. Then, he filled it up with the oil he just bought and drove off.

Didn't even bother to change the filter!

 

[rpn453]

Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
And I am simply unable to fathom how anyone, anywhere, WANTS the Wal-Mart model to succeed . . .


I hear what you're saying, but I like Wal-Mart because I think it's an efficient way of distributing goods, and I like efficiency. As long as there is plenty of competition for every type of item they sell, and I can choose to buy things elsewhere, I don't have a problem with it. I think there will always be the more specialized stores for the things that actually require any employee skills or sales knowledge. There's nothing I buy at Wal-Mart that requires those things, and I don't personally know any skilled people who can't get a decent job elsewhere. Sure, it replaces small business owners with one larger business owner and concentrates wealth, but isn't everything already heading in that direction anyway? I honestly don't know if the Wal-Mart model itself is bad for my country. Wal-Mart doesn't seem any less sane than anything else around me. Really, the only glimmer of sanity I have in my life is my desire to never reproduce, so I'm fortunate I'll never need forgiveness from any children if I'm making a mistake by liking Wal-Mart!

 

[uc50ic4more]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
Get schooling


Absolutely!

Originally Posted By: Tempest
... then you have put yourself their.


Errrrrrrr... Mebbe I'll stick to non-institutional schoolin'.

 

[moribundman]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
If you are working a minimum wage job then you have put yourself their. That is the value that YOU think you are worth as you CHOOSE to stay there. Get schooling, work harder, learn and move up.



Wel, u shood considder dat dee unnskeeld ill-litter-uhtie canned eezeelee goe from hear too their. Da runngs on there echonomick ladder maybe broaken!

 

[Tempest]

One misspelled word....

At least Mori was original.

 

[moribundman]

Thnak yuO!!!

 

[Gary Allan]

Quote:
Walmart exists and thrives because it fills a need:



No. It figured out and had the means to best its competition. That "need" was fulfilled before WM existed ..

It created nothing. It managed to empty others wallets into its own.

WM and the US auto industry are two privately administered public jobs/welfare programs that operate on opposite ends of the socio-economic scale.

 

[uc50ic4more]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
One misspelled word....

At least Mori was original.


The dual quotes; the first one in agreement (the "zig") and then BLAMM-O, you got zinged (the "zag") by the next quote... wasn't... original?

Sir, that was both deeply hurtful and, I suppose, entirely accurate.

 

[moribundman]

Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
The dual quotes; the first one in agreement (the "zig") and then BLAMM-O, you got zinged (the "zag") by the next quote... wasn't... original?

Sir, that was both deeply hurtful and, I suppose, entirely accurate.


I, for one, enjoyed that approach!