Walmart Rotella T4 HDEO 15w40

[FlyingTexan]

$44 for 3 gallons and says:

• Industry Standards: Meets or exceeds API CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4, SN; ACEA E11; JASO DH-2, MA, MA2 requirements.
• OEM Specifications: Complies with Caterpillar ECF-2, ECF-3; Cummins CES 20086, 81; Detroit DFS 93K222, 93K218; and other OEM specifications.

Few questions come to mind here. Does being SN mean it's semi-synthetic? If using on a 250k mile 6.0ls does conventional/synthetic even matter at this point? When I first bought the truck it had 224k and was running rough with low power but after several engine flushes and a bunch of other things, including a 91 octane tune, it probably outruns it's original self. People here seemed to really be pumping a 15w40 for it and I'd been running a 5w30 so thought I'd give this a try. Everything in 15w40 near me is HDEO, maybe that's the case for everywhere.

 

[Nessism1]

• With millions of miles of real world testing, Shell Rotella® T4 Triple Protection 15W-40 uses a proprietary, synthetic blend formula exclusive to Shell.

SN rating for gasoline engines is outdated now, obviously, but if you don't need LSPI protection, it may be fine for your gas vehicle.

 

[SureshR]

Just go get a 5w40? There's nowhere at all in Texas where 15w40 versus 5w40 is going to make a big difference.

 

[FlyingTexan]

Just go get a 5w40? There's nowhere at all in Texas where 15w40 versus 5w40 is going to make a big difference.

It has LiquiMoly Molygen 5w40 in it now but since it was $44 for 3 gal i grabbed 15w40 which many recommended.

 

[SureshR]

It has LiquiMoly Molygen 5w40 in it now but since it was $44 for 3 gal i grabbed 15w40 which many recommended.

You don't really need an overpriced import. Get Mobil 5w40 or Mobil 1 0w40 and enjoy life. Or the Castrol / Castrol Edge. Or Pennzoil / Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. Or Walmart house brand. Or whatever you get off the shelf to suit your budget.

 

[bismic1]

5W40 in Texas, in a 6.0L, is perfectly fine. Proven many times over.

If anything, Ford stated that a 15W40 was only recommended down to 20 degrees (injector stiction).

 

[RDY4WAR]

I would use T6 5W-40 over T4 15W-40. Even if the base oil viscosity is lower (likely similar), the synthetic base oils are superior in the heat as well, even with something as F tier as Rotella. If cost is a concern, Super Tech synthetic 5W-40 is cheaper than T6 and a better oil all around.

You can ignore the SN rating. Much of the standards for API S-series only applies to 30 grade oils and below so it's a moot point to include it. The ~$5,500 for the license to slap it on there is a cheap marketing tool. It doesn't actually meet the standards for SN which is why the 10W-30, which has to actually pass the tests, doesn't carry it.

 

[fantastic]

If cost is a concern, Super Tech synthetic 5W-40 is cheaper than T6 and a better oil all around.

SuperTech 5w-40? Are you sure they sell that grade.

 

[fantastic]

Does being SN mean it's semi-synthetic?

API doesn't license or approve "synthetic" oils that I know of. It's up to the blender to decide how or what groups of oil to use to meet the specifications.

If using on a 250k mile 6.0ls does conventional/synthetic even matter at this point?

6.0L Power Stroke or 6.0L GM Gas engine?

 

[FlyingTexan]

You don't really need an overpriced import. Get Mobil 5w40 or Mobil 1 0w40 and enjoy life. Or the Castrol / Castrol Edge. Or Pennzoil / Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. Or Walmart house brand. Or whatever you get off the shelf to suit your budget.

It was with FCPEuro credit. I used it a lot for my Yamaha outboards and the pickup this go around. Was doing some dove hunting at saw the T4 on the shelf. Normally this truck is just for 2k-3k miles a year but since I wasn't flying I spent 6 weeks helping a buddy on his farm which was pretty hard miles and and a lot of them.

 

[RDY4WAR]

SuperTech 5w-40? Are you sure they sell that grade.

Do they not make it anymore? I used to see their Euro 5W-40 on the shelves near me, but now that I scroll walmart's site, it's not there now. Well, my bad. Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W-40, Mobil 1 Euro 5W-40, either of those would be better.

Yes, I'm recommending A3/B4 Euro oils. They do everything CK-4 does and then some for about the same price. In fact, newer diesels are starting to spec A3/B4 and similar Euro spec oils as CK-4 standards aren't cutting it.

 

[fantastic]

Do they not make it anymore? I used to see their Euro 5W-40 on the shelves near me, but now that I scroll walmart's site, it's not there now. Well, my bad. Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W-40, Mobil 1 Euro 5W-40, either of those would be better.

They never made a Super Tech 5w-40 HDEO & that's why I questioned it.

Yes, I'm recommending A3/B4 Euro oils. They do everything CK-4 does and then some for about the same price. In fact, newer diesels are starting to spec A3/B4 and similar Euro spec oils as CK-4 standards aren't cutting it.

You're talking about light duty vs heavy duty standards. If OP has a 6.0L Power Stroke there have been no tests with a Euro oil for that application. Can you point to where that has been tested? OP's truck is far from "Newer diesels" & besides PC-12 is around the corner to address any required baseline for newer HDEO applications.

 

[SureshR]

It was with FCPEuro credit. I used it a lot for my Yamaha outboards and the pickup this go around. Was doing some dove hunting at saw the T4 on the shelf. Normally this truck is just for 2k-3k miles a year but since I wasn't flying I spent 6 weeks helping a buddy on his farm which was pretty hard miles and and a lot of them.

You have it, go ahead and use it. If you aren't using it as a work truck to haul heavy loads, any passenger car 5w40 should work fine. If it is a work truck, buy the cheapest HDEO that fits your vehicle's spec and use it, $ becomes a factor after all.

 

[BC1]

I have never seen a 15w-40 that was not diesel rated. If you want to use that specific number oil in your gasser it will be fine. If you burn a lot try Delvac 1300 or Delo since they have less phosphorus than T4.

 

[FlyingTexan]

dupe

 

[FlyingTexan]

They never made a Super Tech 5w-40 HDEO & that's why I questioned it.

You're talking about light duty vs heavy duty standards. If OP has a 6.0L Power Stroke there have been no tests with a Euro oil for that application. Can you point to where that has been tested? OP's truck is far from "Newer diesels" & besides PC-12 is around the corner to address any required baseline for newer HDEO applications.

I have a 6.0L LS (Chevy gasser). I'd asked what oil to run on it being high mileage and getting beat on and many were saying 15w40. I'm in Houston area so not really a temp issue.

 

[fantastic]

I have a 6.0L LS (Chevy gasser). I'd asked what oil to run on it being high mileage and getting beat on and many were saying 15w40. I'm in Houston area so not really a temp issue.

I'd say it's a good choice for your truck. Heck, you could run 20w-50 down there if that didn't work.

 

[bismic1]

My bad. I saw HDEO and 6.0L, and just "assumed"!

 

[carl2591]

SuperTech 5w-40? Are you sure they sell that grade.

nope,, super tech synthetic the only thing I can find is 15W-40.. wish they would do 5W-40 but have not seen online or in store..

 

[carl2591]

ram recommends 15W-40 at temp from 0 to 120 + degrees.. below 0 they like 5W-40 for 2018 and below year models diesel engines.

I have a 6.0L LS (Chevy gasser). I'd asked what oil to run on it being high mileage and getting beat on and many were saying 15w40. I'm in Houston area so not really a temp issue.