Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Remember, the Ford Excursion V10 is a certified low emissions vehicle. A Honda Civic HX from the 90s is a gross polluter.
And its true. Hate 'em or not, emission controls work. There was a news story a few years ago that would have been dark comedy if it hadn't been true. A guy tried to commit suicide with a Ford Explorer idling in his closed garage, but it didn't emit enough CO to kill him. Probably had a helluva headache though.
There's nothing much more laughable than seeing a "green party," "environmental defense fund" or similar sticker on a 1960s VW bug or Volvo.
I agree with you. I recently had the option to remove the cat from my Jeep when the exhaust fell off. Since it's the big cat, there is no oxygen sensor on it ... but I do like having catalysts so I put it back on. And the raw exhaust fumes were horrible.
But I believe a Ford Excursion is going to be putting out much, much more pollution over it's life than a Honda Civic that, literally, burns less than 1/5 of the fuel.
I'm sure their oddball calculation is based on a crazy formula; in the end, the Civic probably puts out less bad stuff per mile driven than the Excursion. Probably not per gallon of fuel consumed since the ultra lean burn mode can't keep the catalyst up to temperature.
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Remember, the Ford Excursion V10 is a certified low emissions vehicle. A Honda Civic HX from the 90s is a gross polluter.
And its true. Hate 'em or not, emission controls work. There was a news story a few years ago that would have been dark comedy if it hadn't been true. A guy tried to commit suicide with a Ford Explorer idling in his closed garage, but it didn't emit enough CO to kill him. Probably had a helluva headache though.
There's nothing much more laughable than seeing a "green party," "environmental defense fund" or similar sticker on a 1960s VW bug or Volvo.
I agree with you. I recently had the option to remove the cat from my Jeep when the exhaust fell off. Since it's the big cat, there is no oxygen sensor on it ... but I do like having catalysts so I put it back on. And the raw exhaust fumes were horrible.
But I believe a Ford Excursion is going to be putting out much, much more pollution over it's life than a Honda Civic that, literally, burns less than 1/5 of the fuel.
I'm sure their oddball calculation is based on a crazy formula; in the end, the Civic probably puts out less bad stuff per mile driven than the Excursion. Probably not per gallon of fuel consumed since the ultra lean burn mode can't keep the catalyst up to temperature.