Virginia Safety Inspection

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I hold a state inspection license but have yet to work as a mechanic. One might point out the oddness of getting a license with only a written exam and no skills test. It's basically something they can take away if you pass too many clunkers, and a virtual prerequisite to get hired for any work over oil changes/ tires.

Look at it this way, "mechanical empathy": some people are just going to gas and go, and won't take care of their cars unless forced to by law. If they can't keep their ABS light off maybe they should buy a less flashy car next time, and save money for repairs. I appreciate the yahoos around me having adequate stopping power as they gab on their cellphones and react late.

Rust is not universal but the first thing to rust out isn't a door or fender anymore-- advances in paint cover that-- it's the metal brake lines underneath!
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If one doesn't stick their head underneath once in a while they're in for a very rude surprise as their car ages and still looks great.

I would rather a mechanic look over a car at some interval than have police arbitrarily inspect vehicles at roadside. The mechanic would be better trained and have access to a lift. The cops could/ would target ugly cars owned by poor/ minorities/ persons looking out-of-place.

Inspection standards also hold used car dealers to a standard; I would hate to be in an inspection-less state bordering one that requires them, getting all the clunkers at auction.
 
Originally Posted By: JayhawkRoy
Missouri inspections pretty much work the same way. When I lived there, I would either have my favorite trusted mechanic do the inspection. It paid to have a relationship with one.

If I couldn't for some reason, my policyh was to not reward the inspector's business. I always took it to a trusted shop for the work. At least Missouri went to inspections every two years, as I understand it.


On my Tacoma no inspection is due until the vehicle is 5 years old, under the new law. As I can buy 2 years tags no inspection is due till my 6th year of ownership.
 
Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
We have no safety or emission testing down here.

I am surprised cause it would be a CA$H cow for the state of FL if they required it.


According to my neighbor who has been living in Fla forever there were inspections years ago...The problem was the money that was generated from the inspections went into everyone's pocket but the State of Florida.
 
Originally Posted By: brianl703
I took the Crown Vic in for a Virginia safety inspection. It failed for 4 things:

1)Pitman arm has play. The play is very small, probably most inspectors would have overlooked it.

2)Upper ball-joint has play on the left side.

3)Upper control arm bushings are worn on the right side.

4)Axle seal is leaking onto the parking brake shoes.

The interesting part is that the shop that did the safety inspection quoted me $1300 to fix these things. I declined.

That must be NAPA prices marked up 20% and the Alldata book time multiplied times 2 with a $100/hour labor rate.

I ordered two new upper control arms (which include ball joints) for $104 each, a pitman arm for $50, and parking brake shoes for $10 from RockAuto. Shipped and with the 5% discount code, this was only about $5 more than NAPA wanted for just ONE control arm(about $250!). The parts I ordered from RockAuto are MOOG parts, except for the parking brake shoes which are made by Centric.

I think the inspector nit-picked this car. Honestly, I could probably scrape the rejection sticker off the windshield and take it elsewhere and it'll pass.

It'll be interesting to see how much difference replacing the pitman arm and the control arms will make. Everyone who has driven the car has told me they think the steering and suspension feel fine.


Actually my friend in New Jersey [years ago] was told the same thing about his 95 Crown Vic at a state inspection center in New Jeresy...He scraped off the red rejection sticker and took the car to a Ford dealer [that did county Crown Vics] and it passed with flying colors.
 
Safety inspections stopped about 30 years ago

Emission testing stopped about 15 years ago.
 
Time for an update. My friend and I installed the two new control arms and the pitman arm. That took about 4 hours and we weren't working very fast, plus we did it on the ground with jackstands, and it was hotter than hades out. Good humid Virginia summer day.

We didn't have time to pull the axle and replace the seal, but the leak is very, very slow. It's not even leaving any residue inside the wheel and the differential was still full from when I last topped it off 6K miles ago.

So, we took some brake part cleaner and cleaned all of the dirt/gear oil out of the parking brake assembly and, for good measure, I took it to the carwash and hit the pumpkin with the pressure washer to get all the dirt off so it looks like someone pulled the cover and did some work on it. Hey, I can play that game too!

I took it in this morning, it passed and I paid my $1 re-inspection fee.

I'll replace the axle seal later on. The guy did say that he thinks the driver's side inner and outer tie rod ends are slightly loose and he suggested replacing them before getting it re-aligned, but they are not bad enough to fail the safety inspection. I haven't gotten it aligned since I replaced the control arms yesterday. I might just take it to Merchant's or NTB which has the 6-month alignment warranty so they can at least get the caster/camber set correctly and then replace the tie rod ends later and take it back and get it re-aligned under the warranty.
 
Most states that I have lived in have some sort of inspection. I have had good luck with honest shops in the richmond area but I do not deal with the chains and rarely a dealer. Local independents for the most part do not try to rip you off as they are looking for repeat business. To me the tire chains are the worst for finding non necessary repairs.
 
Originally Posted By: Hethaerto
Originally Posted By: bruno
Actually self serve should be banned - create lots of entry level jobs .


And gas prices will go even higher.


Here in NJ self serve is illegal, an attendant must pump the gas. But gas prices are significantly cheaper than in surrounding states.
 
I drove through Oregon once and tried to pump my own gas. I was told that I couldn't and it really surprised me. First time I had ever seen that before.
 
Originally Posted By: Scott_Tucker
It really [censored] me off that California thinks the lives of birds are more important than humans. We've got the strictest emission controls in the nation but there is absolutely no safety inspection required whatsoever.


Humans like clean air just as much as birds. I've never lived in California but when I was a kid, the smog where I lived was so bad, there were days you couldn't go outside because of it. It was a thick haze, that made your eyes burn, your nose run and you couldn't take a deep breath.
 
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
State mandated inspection programs have been shown to be nothing more than job creation programs for mechanics. Playing on people's fears so the government can 'save us' from something that would not happen anyway.

Couldn't agree more. Can't believe folks on here even want this sort of thing. Plenty of states DO NOT have this type of inspection requirement and you can find fantastic used cars.....and safe ones. We don't need Uncle Sam taking CARE of us on this one people.
 
Originally Posted By: ron917
Here in NJ self serve is illegal, an attendant must pump the gas.

Correct, but only for gasoline (petrol). Diesel fuel is exempt from the self-serve only legislation. This is also true in Oregon, which is the only other US state where self-serve gasoline is illegal.
 
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
State mandated inspection programs have been shown to be nothing more than job creation programs for mechanics. Playing on people's fears so the government can 'save us' from something that would not happen anyway.

Couldn't agree more. Can't believe folks on here even want this sort of thing. Plenty of states DO NOT have this type of inspection requirement and you can find fantastic used cars.....and safe ones. We don't need Uncle Sam taking CARE of us on this one people.

It's a codependency... since people here have had inspections as long as anyone can remember, they can't be relied upon to take care of things for themselves. The plot twist is if one does know something about how cars work, they know they're getting fleeced and can go somewhere else, or complain to the authority having jurisdiction about the crooked mechanic.

Uncle Sam doesn't register cars for private citizens, your metaphor is a bit mixed.
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Local, state, or Federal....can't stand the government being involved in my life to the level of mandatory inspections. My dogs, a fire pit, my watering, my separate garage, clearing tree's on my property....you name, the government requires a license/permit or wants a piece.....all in the name of 'protecting' us.
 
Originally Posted By: ron917
Originally Posted By: Hethaerto
Originally Posted By: bruno
Actually self serve should be banned - create lots of entry level jobs .

And gas prices will go even higher.

Here in NJ self serve is illegal, an attendant must pump the gas. But gas prices are significantly cheaper than in surrounding states.


It's also worth noting that NJ has a low state gasoline tax (14.5¢ on top of the 18.4¢ federal excise tax), 26.7¢ cheaper than New York.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/tax_info.aspx
 
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