Video: ADBV burn test on Subaru 15208AA12A

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To repeat my post #7....

I'm quite sure the rubber industry utilizes standardized testing techniques with clear criteria for what qualifies as passing and/or failing those standardized tests.

As an example, you can reference some very basic ISO standards here.

Cheers!!!
^^^ Strawman back-peddle. Go find something focused and specific that says a burn test will not distinguish nitrile from silicone rubber.
I say you, nor anyone else here, can't prove what the rubber industry guys say about how they burn is not correct.
 
^^^ Strawman back-peddle. Go find something focused and specific that says a burn test will not distinguish nitrile from silicone rubber.
I say you, nor anyone else here, can't prove what the rubber industry guys say about how they burn is not correct.
Alas, I am not your gofer.
You'll need to provide your own references for your own claims.
But nice try!!!

Cheers!
 
Alas, I am not your gofer. You'll need to provide your own references.

Cheers!!!
You made the claim ... so you have to prove your claim. I already backed up mine by the info and links in other threads of the rubber industry information. So far, nothing can be shown that the burn test is not accurate, and I doubt anything will prove otherwise - even a lab test to correlate burn test results from every ISO test known to determine rubber type. You make excuses like this because you can't prove it's not a valid test.
 
You made the claim ... so you have to prove your claim. I already proved mine by the info and links in other threads of the rubber industry information. You make lame excuses like this because you can't prove it's not a valid test.
It’s called the ability to discriminate based upon truth or error. This however, can be in extremely short supply based upon the subject and the thread participants.
 
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It’s called the ability to discriminate based upon truth or error. This however, can be an extremely short supply based upon the subject and the thread participants.
People claiming the burn test is invalid are essentially saying all the sources and information from the rubber industry experts on how different rubbers burn is incorrect. They make the claim it's invalid, but have zero information to back their claim up.
 
You made the claim ... so you have to prove your claim. I already proved mine by the info and links in other threads of the rubber industry information. You make lame excuses like this because you can't prove it's not a valid test.
Again, it is bickering like this that makes BITOG a smaller place.

If you cannot comprehend that idea that industry standard based testing is critical in order to evaluate test results, then I guess there isnt much to talk about.

Cheers!
 
Again, it is bickering like this that makes BITOG a smaller place.

If you cannot comprehend that idea that industry standard based testing is critical in order to evaluate test results, then I guess there isnt much to talk about.

Cheers!
More straw from someone who can't back up anything they claim ... just keep trolling with no legs to stand on. :D And BTW ... you're also the one contributing to the "bickering" because you can't make this a technical discussion. You have provided zero technical information that supports your claim that it's an invalid test.
 
If you cannot comprehend that idea that industry standard based testing is critical in order to evaluate test results, then I guess there isnt much to talk about.
Then take the lab testing challenge. Guy who's wrong pays for all costs involved.

Do you think nitrile and silicone rubber burns any differently than what the rubber experts say, and what's been shown by various burn tests? If so, why ... and give a technical source that backs it up.
 
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Again, it is bickering like this that makes BITOG a smaller place.

If you cannot comprehend that idea that industry standard based testing is critical in order to evaluate test results, then I guess there isnt much to talk about.

Cheers!
Well not really. Posters make Bitog a smaller or bigger place.
 
And that has been discussed here as well. Supply chain problems likely led the company to switch to nitrile temporarily. If they had been forthcoming a small tag or note indicating that the ADBV was nitrile due to supply issues. Even with that, 99.5% of buyers would have no idea what that meant.
The ADBV in the FRAM made Subaru filter was never silicone as marketed. I ran one through XRF back in March 2009. There was no silicon present in the ADBV.

Here's the thread:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/subaru-honeywell-vs-fram-orange-can-of-death.103885/

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The ADBV in the FRAM made Subaru filter was never silicone as marketed. I ran one through XRF back in March 2009. There was no silicon present in the ADBV.

Here's the thread:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/subaru-honeywell-vs-fram-orange-can-of-death.103885/

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Well, Honeywell did own Fram before Rank Group, and the newer Fram made one certainly wouldn’t be the first filter that First Brands cheaped out on! I’ve liked & used Fram since the 1980s, but First Brands is not doing them any favors!
 
Well, Honeywell did own Fram before Rank Group, and the newer Fram made one certainly wouldn’t be the first filter that First Brands cheaped out on! I’ve liked & used Fram since the 1980s, but First Brands is not doing them any favors!
They might want to rethink and be careful, or they may become "Last Brands". 😄
 
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