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Valvoline Restore and Protect
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Interesting. How ACEA C3 and BMW LL-04 go along with Porsche A40? Aren't the first two mid-SAPS and the latter full-SAPS?
Also, from the PDS it looks like the oil doesn't have any manufacturer approvals?
Agree it's an odd mix of recommendations.
I'd say so. Have a customer with stuck rings? No need for a tear down. Go spend $30 at your local walmart.
https://www.aftermarketnews.com/valvoline-restore-protect-expand-role/
“I was surprised that it did it in two oil changes,” said Dr. Michael Warholic, global technology director, Valvoline Global Operations. “I was extremely surprised.”
Historically, motor oil has been positioned primarily around protection, viscosity, performance and drain intervals. Deposit control has been part of that value proposition, but largely framed as preventive rather than restorative.
Surely you must be kidding
I regularly do 7000-7500 mile intervals in my Corvette and 10,000 mile intervals in the Civic, using off the shelf oil that can be found in Walmart and Canadian Tire.
5000 miles is too early for most people unless it’s a severe fuel diluter. Even with a little bit of fuel, 6-7k intervals are fine. There are plenty of high mileage 1.5T Hondas out there chugging along just fine using intervals determined by their OLM (which means 9-10k)
Why are you conflating the L15B or L15C 1.5 liter direct-injected turbocharged DOHC inline-4 engines with the port-injected engine in your older generation Honda Civic?
As for your claim of "plenty of high mileage 1.5T Hondas out there chugging along just fine" the 1.5T engine has several well-known and generally acknowledged issues (fuel dilution etc. not just head gasket failures) that have definitely degraded Honda's reliability reputation.
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Despite those reported troubles there are still examples of 1.5 Civics going 300,000 miles or more. One guy even has over 700,000 miles on one. So there’s that…
I'm about 500 miles into my first venture with Valvoline Restore and Protect. The engine does feel as though it idles slightly smoother, and has a smoother acceleration.
That being said, right before this oil change I did spray some CRC valve cleaner through a vacuum line, and did a MAF cleaning and some throttle body cleaning. But I do feel over the past 500 miles is when it got a bit smoother. Not sure if it's possible to notice a change so soon, or it's in my head/placebo. The car is 12 years old, but only has 84k miles, a good chunk of which are highway. I was thinking about just doing the one oil change with this and going to Pennzoil UP, or Mobil 1 Advanced Clean (since it's Dexos). But might keep with this. Probably still have another 6 months before I need to worry about it though.
That being said, right before this oil change I did spray some CRC valve cleaner through a vacuum line, and did a MAF cleaning and some throttle body cleaning. But I do feel over the past 500 miles is when it got a bit smoother. Not sure if it's possible to notice a change so soon, or it's in my head/placebo. The car is 12 years old, but only has 84k miles, a good chunk of which are highway. I was thinking about just doing the one oil change with this and going to Pennzoil UP, or Mobil 1 Advanced Clean (since it's Dexos). But might keep with this. Probably still have another 6 months before I need to worry about it though.
I would say this is a fallacy. Most people in Europe never see autobahn speeds and spend their entire lives plodding along in the city traffic just like everyone that lives in NYC or Boston.
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people like to imagine everyone driving 100+ mph everywhere in Europe but it's simply not the case. most of the speed limits are even lower than the US.
I thought this was a very interesting report from @panthermike posted here.
This illustrates an important example of why it's not a bad idea to run 4 OCIs at least of Valvoline Restore and Protect to clean any deposits up that you may not be aware you have.
Considering Valvoline Restore and Protect just went up to $38 everywhere, and I got Mobil 1 Advance Clean for $12 after rebate, I'm going to hopefully see if Mobil 1 does anything and then switch back to Valvoline Restore and Protect next year when hopefully prices come down.
But currently on my first Valvoline Restore and Protect trial and things seem smoother. We'll see what the oil looks like in 6 months.
CleanSump
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Still $29.97 at Walmart and in stock in my area.
What viscosity? 5w30 seems to be 38+ everywhere?
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$30 on Amazon, fully stocked
Weird. Even Amazon is showing 39 for me. But that's 5w30. Other viscosity is 30.
CleanSump
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Lucky. Oos all over in northern commierado.
I just picked up since I was there 2x 5qt 0W-20 (all they had), 1 x 5qt 5W-30 (last one), and 1x 5qt 5W-20 (they still have 4 of those left on shelf). 5W-20 vs. 0W-20 in my Accord or daughters CRV won't care......unless of course....obligatory BITOG "they're totaled".
I still have at least one more round of Valvoline Restore and Protect to get to 4 in the Accord. I'm using 0W-20 for that currently. I figured the "recommended" slightly thinner viscosity while trying to clean my rings if they are actually the issue and not my driving style. After that it will go back to 5W-30.
Maybe it's a regional thing and they're out in my area. Might try to VPN and see. Where are you?
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