Valvoline Restore and Protect

I thought Valvoline Restore and Protect needed heat that was near operating temperatures.
I have a 2-strike piston which might need cleaning. I'll pour about 8oz of Valvoline Restore and Protect in a tin container and see what it does.
I can heat up on the stove, if needed.
 
This guy drove 9,000 miles with Valvoline Restore and Protect in his Chevy Silverado 4.6L. Then cut the oil filter, and did UOA at SPEEDiagnostics.
Valvoline Restore and Protect keeps its viscosity. It's interesting because it has more zinc than when new. Also, he has some metals wear but I canoot comment on those.
Valvoline Restore and Protect - product data sheet
https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publ...379f19f8/ffdb3f9b-e06d-ee11-b828-48df379f19f8

 
This guy drove 9,000 miles with Valvoline Restore and Protect in his Chevy Silverado 4.6L. Then cut the oil filter, and did UOA at SPEEDiagnostics.
Valvoline Restore and Protect keeps its viscosity. It's interesting because it has more zinc than when new. Also, he has some metals wear but I canoot comment on those.
Valvoline Restore and Protect - product data sheet
https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publ...379f19f8/ffdb3f9b-e06d-ee11-b828-48df379f19f8


I certainly feel comfortable running with the OLM on this oil.
But in a 4.6L ‘Rado?
 
This guy drove 9,000 miles with Valvoline Restore and Protect in his Chevy Silverado 4.6L. Then cut the oil filter, and did UOA at SPEEDiagnostics.
Valvoline Restore and Protect keeps its viscosity. It's interesting because it has more zinc than when new. Also, he has some metals wear but I canoot comment on those.
Valvoline Restore and Protect - product data sheet
https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publ...379f19f8/ffdb3f9b-e06d-ee11-b828-48df379f19f8


Increased zinc due to removing zinc plated on to engine surfaces?

I've seen all kinds of claims on this site over the years snd typically with no concrete proof. I remain skeptical of Valvoline Restore and Protect.
 
cold started at -25 Celcius tonight like it was nothing. never expected this from this oil. pleasantly surprised. i use the 5W-30 in my 2024 Mazda CX-5 Signature. i am impressed.

Interesting, I also did a -26 C / -15F cold start experiment with restore & protect since I’m a reluctant 5W-30 user (normally use 0W-30). I have no concerns or gripes, just curiosity. I ran this test with Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W-30 that had been used 12 weeks and 4300 miles. Filter is a Fram Synthetic Endurance cartridge. Vehicle type is in my username, 2024.

Temps at startup after 12 hours of cold soaking:
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Below are graphs showing Oil Pressure in green, top of scale 155 bottom 15 psi. Red is misfires (there were none) and blue is voltage.

The pressure hit 154 psi at initial startup and then oscillated between ~70 and ~130 psi about once a second.
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I would love any guesses at why the pressure looks like this @ZeeOSix . The oil pump is “continuous variable displacement”; the oscillating could be due to that or some kind of interaction between pump bypass and filter bypass?

After about 2 minutes pressure stabilized at ~80.
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Video of the same -26C start above (sorry the cold impaired my cognitive ability to remember to use screen recording):


For reference, here is a normal start at 50F in the garage with same oil and filter:
 
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This guy drove 9,000 miles with Valvoline Restore and Protect in his Chevy Silverado 4.6L. Then cut the oil filter, and did UOA at SPEEDiagnostics.
Valvoline Restore and Protect keeps its viscosity. It's interesting because it has more zinc than when new. Also, he has some metals wear but I canoot comment on those.
Valvoline Restore and Protect - product data sheet
https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publ...379f19f8/ffdb3f9b-e06d-ee11-b828-48df379f19f8


Nice results. Sounds like it cleaned up the engine quite well.

He said this was coal black prior to this photo:

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Increased zinc due to removing zinc plated on to engine surfaces?

I've seen all kinds of claims on this site over the years snd typically with no concrete proof. I remain skeptical of Valvoline Restore and Protect.
Healthy skepticism is a good thing! Which part(s) are you skeptical of in regards to Restore and Protect?
 
The only thing I am skeptical about Valvoline in general is the lack of usefull specifications on their product data sheet, not just a generalizing of pour points etc,
Most oil manufacture's data sheets are pretty sparse in specs these days. Some don't even give a HTHS viscosity or a Noack anymore.

and would like to see the CCS and MRV test results also.
The W rating tells you where those lie in general. Only time the CCS and MRV viscosity are useful is if someone is into splitting hairs within the W rating (ie, how close is it to the next lower W rating).
 
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Interesting, I also did a -26 C / -15F cold start experiment with restore & protect since I’m a reluctant 5W-30 user (normally use 0W-30). I have no concerns or gripes, just curiosity. I ran this test with Valvoline Restore and Protect 5W-30 that had been used 12 weeks and 4300 miles. Filter is a Fram Synthetic Endurance cartridge. Vehicle type is in my username, 2024.

Temps at startup after 12 hours of cold soaking:
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Below are graphs showing Oil Pressure in green, top of scale 155 bottom 15 psi. Red is misfires (there were none) and blue is voltage.

The pressure hit 154 psi at initial startup and then oscillated between ~70 and ~130 psi about once a second.
View attachment 326584
I would love any guesses at why the pressure looks like this @ZeeOSix . The oil pump is “continuous variable displacement”; the oscillating could be due to that or some kind of interaction between pump bypass and filter bypass?

After about 2 minutes pressure stabilized at ~80.
View attachment 326585

Video of the same -26C start above (sorry the cold impaired my cognitive ability to remember to use screen recording):


For reference, here is a normal start at 50F in the garage with same oil and filter:

Yes, it looks like the oil pump pressure regulation and possibly the oil filter bypass valve fluctuations are going on due to the thick cold oil. The initial start-up pressure of 154 PSI was due to the pump not able to react instantly. The pump trying to control the max pressure when the oil is that thick might put it into an oscillating control fit like you see here until the oil starts to warm up and thin down some. The cold start with the oil at 50 F doesn't show this behavior probably because the pump can control the max pressure better when the oil is thinner.

On a side note, someone here had a spin-on oil filter blow-out the base gasket on a cold start like this (high initial oil pressure) due to the filter possibly not being tightened down all the way and the base gasket blew out the side of the filter and puked oil all over the place. That's for people who have a spin-on filter ... make sure it's installed correctly.
 
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After about 2 minutes pressure stabilized at ~80.
As far as I know (from an automotive engineer), it takes about a minute for all the oil to be pumped around the engine. So those 2 min. and the oil pressure explain that once again. Which explains why a couple of minutes are enough before you start moving and don't need to run your engine longer than that. However, that doesn't mean the engine is up to operating temp. and needs to be babied the initial 5 miles or so.
 
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The oil pump wasn't "starved" (ie, the sump oil level went too low) because the oil pressure never really dropped ... it just oscillated at a high oil pressure.
 
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