Valvoline Restore and Protect Euro

Yeah, I think it'll mention something general statements, like below, for sure. This is from a link another member sent me.

Technical Description:
Meets or exceeds the following standards: American Petroleum Institute (API) SQ, European Automobile Manufacturers Association (ACEA) C3
Recommended for use:
Designed to meet API SQ and ACEA C3 standards, it is suitable for some European luxury models such as Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, and BMW.
It may be suitable. But it's going to be a hard sell to most VW/Audi/Porsche/BMW/MB owners without seeing any "Approved", or at the very minimum "Meets" to these Euro manufacturer specs. I won't put it in any of my Euro engines without this.
 
It may be suitable. But it's going to be a hard sell to most VW/Audi/Porsche/BMW/MB owners without seeing any "Approved", or at the very minimum "Meets" to these Euro manufacturer specs. I won't put it in any of my Euro engines without this.
Understandable, They pay good money for their vehicles so finding an actual approved oil is a good piece of mind.
 
It would be no different than running Amsoil, RL or HPL.

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It may be suitable. But it's going to be a hard sell to most VW/Audi/Porsche/BMW/MB owners without seeing any "Approved", or at the very minimum "Meets" to these Euro manufacturer specs. I won't put it in any of my Euro engines without this.
I want to thank you for what you posted, with words like suitable and hard sell, your words, not mine. You also posted the words Approved and minimum and then Meets to these Euro manufacture specs. If these Euro specs are so good why is there a need for Valvoline Restore and Protect? Many of these vehicles are specked for 5W-40, but here they are using 5W-30 VRP and getting results with less oil usage. These so-called specks are not working out.
 
I want to thank you for what you posted, with words like suitable and hard sell, your words, not mine. You also posted the words Approved and minimum and then Meets to these Euro manufacture specs. If these Euro specs are so good why is there a need for Valvoline Restore and Protect? Many of these vehicles are specked for 5W-40, but here they are using 5W-30 VRP and getting results with less oil usage. These so-called specks are not working out.
Your question implies that there is really only one function of motor oil that matters - how well it cleans. Hopefully most here on BITOG know better. Among other things, European specifications put emphasis on low SAPS, but also put a very healthy dose of phosphorus and zinc for wear protection. Some Euro oils, such as Mobil 1 ESP, use so much that they do not meet SN, SP or SQ specs. But ESP is still a well respected motor oil. BMW puts a lot of emphasis on HT/HS, which is also an indicator of wear.

Valvoline Restore and Protect may meet some of the European specifications. That would be great if it not only has the cleaning qualities it is respected for, but also meets the Euro specifications. All I'm saying is that they need to show that, as a bare minimum it "Meets" these specifications, but preferably do the required testing and submit for approval, so they can show "Approved" on their bottles.

If they can't do that, perhaps they could follow the lead of what Mobil 1 does with ESP, where they show that it meets SQ engine test requirements. That means something to people. I don't know if something like that could be done for the European specs or not.
 
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