Valvoline NOT License dexos1

[buster]

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Valvoline does not plan to officially license dexos™ for these products in order to minimize the cost impact to customers who would be replacing GF-4 motor oils with dexos™ motor oils. As always, Valvoline stands behind all of its products. Use of appropriate Valvoline products for GM vehicles will NOT void the vehicle's warranty."


http://www.jobbersworld.com/june72010.htm#article3

Quote:
Valvoline says its SynPower MST 5W-30 (a product on the market for several years) already meets all the requirements of General Motors dexos2 and it can be used in all GM passenger car gasoline and diesel vehicles.

In addition, Valvoline will introduce an engine oil that meets the dexos1 specification for gasoline-only vehicles in the fall of this year. But, Valvoline does not plan to officially license dexos for these products. The reason they don't is reportedly to minimize the cost impact to customers when they move from GF-4 to dexos licensed engine oils.

As most in the industry are aware, GM charges a very significant royalty fee to license dexos1 and dexos2 engine oil. Understandably, lubricant marketers will likely pass these fees on to the consumer if they license dexos.

Whereas Valvoline does not plan to officially license dexos, they make it clear that Valvoline stands behind its products and that "the use of the appropriate Valvoline products for GM vehicle's will NOT void the vehicle's warranty."

So now the big questions. Will other marketers take the same position as Valvoline with regards to dexos? And if they do, what happens to dexos?


More:

http://www.jobbersworld.com/June%2015,%202010.htm

 

[daves87rs]

Uh oh.

 

[prax]

Synpower costs $25. Ultra supposedly meets dexos and it costs $28. I don't think Valvoline really has a choice. They simply can't afford the fees.

 

[JAG]

It does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling that regular Synpower could meet Dexos if the tests were run. Valvoline Synpower is not good enough IMO to pull off an Amsoil and Red Line "we didn't get certifications" position with me.

 

[Drew99GT]

Dexos is a bunch of bull as far as I can tell - it's been revealed here and elsewhere that GM will charge a pretty penny to obtain Dexos licensing.

I say good job Ashland!

Dexos = Dexcool oil.

 

[o2man98]

 

[MolaKule]

Same here Drew, and let's hope the other's follow Ashland's lead.

 

[Pablo]

GM is run by whom? Oh THOSE shakedown artists.

 

[mechanicx]

Well there's two ways of looking at it. If automakers like the Japanese would licenses their fluids ATF, coolant etc like GM and Ford does you'd be assured of getting fluids that meet specs without having to pay a lot more for proprietary ones. Also fluid makers are not above claiming their product meets any an all specs without actually in fact meeting them.

If a customer wants to pay a nominal extra for a licensed product, that should be their choice. Fluid is cheap, car mechanical systems are not. I suspect sometimes some of the fluid makers want to sell at market maximum prices without having to pay for licensing and then even claim they meet the spec even when they don't.

 

[brianl703]

Originally Posted By: JAG
It does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling that regular Synpower could meet Dexos if the tests were run.


Synpower MST is not regular Synpower. It meets OE requirements for several European automakers. It's also apparently not available in anything less than a 55-gallon drum in the USA.

 

[garlicbreadman]

dexos?

 

[Mokanic]

I say good job Ashland! Hopefully everyone else will tell Government Motors to go play in their sandbox.

 

[Johnny]

For the first time in my life I agree with something Valvoline has done. GM4718 and 6094 are the only GM specs that need to be met. API SN and ILSAC GF5 will take care of the rest.