Valvoline Extended Protection Maxlife API SQ

[wemay]

Valvoline never passes up and opportunity for new packaging.

 

[MalibuRam65]

Oh ok so with the new API spec comes a new label for these motor oils .

 

[Adambomb7777]

The red they are using is quite jarring to my eyes

I guess they did a good job of making sure it gets noticed

 

[SOHCman]

One must admit, it is an eye catching design. Very important in the realm of marketing obviously.

 

[buster]

Looks like they made some improvements in heat protection (20x). Sludge protection is average. Compare this to SS and you can see why the SS SA is 1.06.

 

[MurkyAsparagus]

I saw this the other day. I honestly like the older packaging more.

 

[The Critic]

Looks like they made some improvements in heat protection (20x). Sludge protection is average. Compare this to SS and you can see why the SS SA is 1.06.


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The API SP version listed "50% more wear protection" and 10x stronger against oil breakdown.

 

[burbguy82]

Looks like they made some improvements in heat protection (20x). Sludge protection is average. Compare this to SS and you can see why the SS SA is 1.06.


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after all the 90% more and 50% more and blah blah blah, one would think we would be unable to make a better product.

 

[GSCJR]

Oh oh, no more ULTRA MAXLIFE technology, just a red background instead. Our engines are doomed; thank goodness they kept a red cap.

 

[kitchbow]

ULTRA MAXLIFE ?????? WTH

 

[Hohn]

after all the 90% more and 50% more and blah blah blah, one would think we would be unable to make a better product.

Like LSJr says, he loves oil but HATES oil marketing.

 

[4WD]

after all the 90% more and 50% more and blah blah blah, one would think we would be unable to make a better product.

Next generation: You won’t be able to understand a VOA bcs it will have metal in it that replaces wear metals in your motor !
(Takes 4 OCI’s) …

 

[Glenda W.]

I’ll never doubt Valvoline again….

 

[buster]

after all the 90% more and 50% more and blah blah blah, one would think we would be unable to make a better product.

I know what you mean.

A lot of folks think all the top tier API oils are formulated to the bottom to just barely pass these tests. The little data that some of the majors give you show that is not the case. How many times have we heard "oh that's just an API oil".........

 

[burbguy82]

Next generation: You won’t be able to understand a VOA bcs it will have metal in it that replaces wear metals in your motor !
(Takes 4 OCI’s) …

if the metals and such as in the uoa, the filter is not catching it. I have to wonder if this can be counterproductive in older engines or can increase overall wear, while the product is working

 

[burbguy82]

I know what you mean.

A lot of folks think all the top tier API oils are formulated to the bottom to just barely pass these tests. The little data that some of the majors give you show that is not the case. How many times have we heard "oh that's just an API oil".........

I suppose. Most of it is marketing imo. There are countless engine in the past that have made several 100k on ST for example. IMO, it more has to do with build quality than anything else.

Mostly, have have seen no data, from any fleet, showing for example:

150k with valvoline,
175k with Pennzoil
200 k with mobil
and 500k woth Amsoil

....on the regular.


Point was having 90% better of something everytime they reformulate every few years, would mean that modern stuff would have 1000% better whatever than 20 years ago .........and i just dont see that being the case.

 

[The Critic]

Point was having 90% better of something everytime they reformulate every few years, would mean that modern stuff would have 1000% better whatever than 20 years ago .........and i just dont see that being the case.

You’re forgetting that modern powertrains are significantly more demanding than the stuff from 20 years ago, so yes, today’s oils might be 1000% better than the stuff that a 1MZ Toyota may have been designed for.

 

[4WD]

if the metals and such as in the uoa, the filter is not catching it. I have to wonder if this can be counterproductive in older engines or can increase overall wear, while the product is working

Sorry - I should have added a smiley to indicate sarcasm …

 

[Johnny248]

Nothing wrong with updating your packaging and keeping it fresh. Otherwise it turns stale, and people start looking for something that is "newer" and "fresher" on the shelves. Plus you never really need to question the quality of Valvoline. They have become one of those household names in which people can trust.

 

[GSCJR]

You’re forgetting that modern powertrains are significantly more demanding than the stuff from 20 years ago, so yes, today’s oils might be 1000% better than the stuff that a 1MZ Toyota may have been designed for.

...and that 1MZ will still just keep going and going, sludge and all, until someone thinks cleaning it out is a better idea.
Just drive the thing, we're not giving out any medals for the cleanest looking engines; I owned one, it was an awesome engine.

Actually, I owned two now that I think of it, a '97 and an '03.