Back from the days when people thought, "the world is so huge we can't possibly pollute it".
Then that river in Cleveland caught on fire in the 70s.....
Then that river in Cleveland caught on fire in the 70s.....
Used oil disposal technique from 1963
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My neighbor retired from the county road department several years ago. He said back in the day, the vehicle maintenance crews would do oil changes at job sites. They would remove the key from the truck/equipment and just let the oil drain onto the ground wherever it sat. He said sometimes they were even on protected wet lands. SMH
In all seriousness, how does a little oil in the ground compare to say, smoking? Lets look briefly at just 2ND HAND SMOKING:
Secondhand smoke causes approximately 7,330 deaths from lung cancer and 33,950 deaths from heart disease each year. Between 1964 and 2014, 2.5 million people died from exposure to secondhand smoke, according to a report from the U.S. Surgeon General
34,000 2ND HAND deaths! Smoking KILLS 10's of MILLIONS.
And we worry about a little spilled oil? Put it in perspective!
Secondhand smoke causes approximately 7,330 deaths from lung cancer and 33,950 deaths from heart disease each year. Between 1964 and 2014, 2.5 million people died from exposure to secondhand smoke, according to a report from the U.S. Surgeon General
34,000 2ND HAND deaths! Smoking KILLS 10's of MILLIONS.
And we worry about a little spilled oil? Put it in perspective!
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Originally Posted by JLTD
Back from the days when people thought, "the world is so huge we can't possibly pollute it".
Then that river in Cleveland caught on fire in the 70s.....
Hey, hey, hey....
Give credit where credit is due.
The Cuyahoga River has been documented to have caught fire at least 13 times.
The most famous occurrence was in June of 1969.
History of Cuyahoga River fires.
Please do not confuse this with the time Cleveland mayor Ralph Perk caught his own hair on fire with a welding torch at a ribbon cutting ceremony.
Know your history folks.....
Back from the days when people thought, "the world is so huge we can't possibly pollute it".
Then that river in Cleveland caught on fire in the 70s.....
Hey, hey, hey....
Give credit where credit is due.
The Cuyahoga River has been documented to have caught fire at least 13 times.
The most famous occurrence was in June of 1969.
History of Cuyahoga River fires.
Please do not confuse this with the time Cleveland mayor Ralph Perk caught his own hair on fire with a welding torch at a ribbon cutting ceremony.
Know your history folks.....
Originally Posted by gfh77665
In all seriousness, how does a little oil in the ground compare to say, smoking? Lets look briefly at just 2ND HAND SMOKING:
Secondhand smoke causes approximately 7,330 deaths from lung cancer and 33,950 deaths from heart disease each year. Between 1964 and 2014, 2.5 million people died from exposure to secondhand smoke, according to a report from the U.S. Surgeon General
34,000 2ND HAND deaths! Smoking KILLS 10's of MILLIONS.
And we worry about a little spilled oil? Put it in perspective!
How does that logical (using the term very loosely) leap have to do with justifying tipping oil into the ground ?
In all seriousness, how does a little oil in the ground compare to say, smoking? Lets look briefly at just 2ND HAND SMOKING:
Secondhand smoke causes approximately 7,330 deaths from lung cancer and 33,950 deaths from heart disease each year. Between 1964 and 2014, 2.5 million people died from exposure to secondhand smoke, according to a report from the U.S. Surgeon General
34,000 2ND HAND deaths! Smoking KILLS 10's of MILLIONS.
And we worry about a little spilled oil? Put it in perspective!
How does that logical (using the term very loosely) leap have to do with justifying tipping oil into the ground ?
Originally Posted by bullwinkle
I remember they sprayed it on gravel roads to keep the dust down, and also used cinders & ash from the power plant for traction in winter. Would you like a little mercury with your dioxins!
I drove on cinders in upstate NY in the late 1990s! They didn't even grind them all that fine, it was like running over charcoal briquettes.
I remember they sprayed it on gravel roads to keep the dust down, and also used cinders & ash from the power plant for traction in winter. Would you like a little mercury with your dioxins!
I drove on cinders in upstate NY in the late 1990s! They didn't even grind them all that fine, it was like running over charcoal briquettes.
Well, it's not as if one is forced to choose.
Originally Posted by gfh77665
In all seriousness, how does a little oil in the ground compare to say, smoking? Lets look briefly at just 2ND HAND SMOKING:
Secondhand smoke causes approximately 7,330 deaths from lung cancer and 33,950 deaths from heart disease each year. Between 1964 and 2014, 2.5 million people died from exposure to secondhand smoke, according to a report from the U.S. Surgeon General
34,000 2ND HAND deaths! Smoking KILLS 10's of MILLIONS.
And we worry about a little spilled oil? Put it in perspective!
I know social issues have gotten pretty polarized, but is it not possible to avoid smoking and dumping oil?
Beyond that, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the push to eradicate smoking and second hand smoke risks has been far greater in scope and gravity than the push to recycle oil.
Originally Posted by gfh77665
In all seriousness, how does a little oil in the ground compare to say, smoking? Lets look briefly at just 2ND HAND SMOKING:
Secondhand smoke causes approximately 7,330 deaths from lung cancer and 33,950 deaths from heart disease each year. Between 1964 and 2014, 2.5 million people died from exposure to secondhand smoke, according to a report from the U.S. Surgeon General
34,000 2ND HAND deaths! Smoking KILLS 10's of MILLIONS.
And we worry about a little spilled oil? Put it in perspective!
I know social issues have gotten pretty polarized, but is it not possible to avoid smoking and dumping oil?
Beyond that, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the push to eradicate smoking and second hand smoke risks has been far greater in scope and gravity than the push to recycle oil.
A lot of roads were done with a oil mat surface in the past. A nice layer of thick oil followed by crushed gravel which was rolled and left to set up. Later they came back with a sweeper and collected the loose gravel to use on the next project.
I'm not seeing this done as much nowadays but I'm sure it's still done.
I'm not seeing this done as much nowadays but I'm sure it's still done.
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Originally Posted by Linctex
Around the farm, all used oil was used up for other tasks.
Oiling roller chains, lubricating the sickle bar every morning, treating wood, killing weeds around buildings, etc.
Yes, I remember. Also oiling the sliding shutter at the bottom of the fertilizer spreader, rust-proofing the shiny surfaces of shovels, hoes, plows, and disks before storage, and controlling weeds in the gravel driveway.
I suppose waste oil sprayed or trickled thinly on a road or driveway is considerably less likely to contaminate the water table before bacteria take car of it than as much oil dumped into a single post hole as Popular Science suggested.
Around the farm, all used oil was used up for other tasks.
Oiling roller chains, lubricating the sickle bar every morning, treating wood, killing weeds around buildings, etc.
Yes, I remember. Also oiling the sliding shutter at the bottom of the fertilizer spreader, rust-proofing the shiny surfaces of shovels, hoes, plows, and disks before storage, and controlling weeds in the gravel driveway.
I suppose waste oil sprayed or trickled thinly on a road or driveway is considerably less likely to contaminate the water table before bacteria take car of it than as much oil dumped into a single post hole as Popular Science suggested.
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Originally Posted by walterjay
When I was a kid one of my relatives used to pour oil down an old well on an empty lot that was next door to him.
Abandoned wells being used that way always burn me bright red
ZERO consideration given for anyone else..............
When I was a kid one of my relatives used to pour oil down an old well on an empty lot that was next door to him.
Abandoned wells being used that way always burn me bright red
ZERO consideration given for anyone else..............
Originally Posted by Linctex
Around the farm, all used oil was used up for other tasks.
Oiling roller chains, lubricating the sickle bar every morning, treating wood, killing weeds around buildings, etc.
Same here, main uses were brush / weed killer and burning brush. Spread thinly I think it gave the oil consuming bacteria a good chance to provide bioremediation as it never rendered spots used infertile, there would always be more weeds / brush given time. Then fire ants arrived . . .
Around the farm, all used oil was used up for other tasks.
Oiling roller chains, lubricating the sickle bar every morning, treating wood, killing weeds around buildings, etc.
Same here, main uses were brush / weed killer and burning brush. Spread thinly I think it gave the oil consuming bacteria a good chance to provide bioremediation as it never rendered spots used infertile, there would always be more weeds / brush given time. Then fire ants arrived . . .
Originally Posted by PimTac
A lot of roads were done with a oil mat surface in the past. A nice layer of thick oil followed by crushed gravel which was rolled and left to set up. Later they came back with a sweeper and collected the loose gravel to use on the next project.
I'm not seeing this done as much nowadays but I'm sure it's still done.
Originally Posted by PimTac
A lot of roads were done with a oil mat surface in the past. A nice layer of thick oil followed by crushed gravel which was rolled and left to set up. Later they came back with a sweeper and collected the loose gravel to use on the next project.
I'm not seeing this done as much nowadays but I'm sure it's still done.
A lot of roads were done with a oil mat surface in the past. A nice layer of thick oil followed by crushed gravel which was rolled and left to set up. Later they came back with a sweeper and collected the loose gravel to use on the next project.
I'm not seeing this done as much nowadays but I'm sure it's still done.
Originally Posted by PimTac
A lot of roads were done with a oil mat surface in the past. A nice layer of thick oil followed by crushed gravel which was rolled and left to set up. Later they came back with a sweeper and collected the loose gravel to use on the next project.
I'm not seeing this done as much nowadays but I'm sure it's still done.
Originally Posted by eljefino
Originally Posted by bullwinkle
I remember they sprayed it on gravel roads to keep the dust down, and also used cinders & ash from the power plant for traction in winter. Would you like a little mercury with your dioxins!
I drove on cinders in upstate NY in the late 1990s! They didn't even grind them all that fine, it was like running over charcoal briquettes.
In Jr and Sr high school, our track was crushed cinder. We wore spikes to run the mile. I could always run about 10-15 seconds faster in the mile on a rubber track than our cinder track.
You wanted to be up front, as everone else had cinders flying off their shoes and hitting you in the face. Wonder how bad that was for us health-wise.
Originally Posted by bullwinkle
I remember they sprayed it on gravel roads to keep the dust down, and also used cinders & ash from the power plant for traction in winter. Would you like a little mercury with your dioxins!
I drove on cinders in upstate NY in the late 1990s! They didn't even grind them all that fine, it was like running over charcoal briquettes.
In Jr and Sr high school, our track was crushed cinder. We wore spikes to run the mile. I could always run about 10-15 seconds faster in the mile on a rubber track than our cinder track.
You wanted to be up front, as everone else had cinders flying off their shoes and hitting you in the face. Wonder how bad that was for us health-wise.
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Originally Posted by danez_yoda
Ha we used to skip the post hole digger and find an ant pile. And we has well water from an aquifer about 80 feet down. Might splainze a few things.
I remember dad talking about just dumping it in the ditch along the road out front.
their well was in a gravel vein like 12 ft down... yes, the house had a basement. and yes it often had water in it...
Ha we used to skip the post hole digger and find an ant pile. And we has well water from an aquifer about 80 feet down. Might splainze a few things.
I remember dad talking about just dumping it in the ditch along the road out front.
their well was in a gravel vein like 12 ft down... yes, the house had a basement. and yes it often had water in it...
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Keep grass off the fence line with motor oil - after that, no edging. Back in the day people just figured that the earth is a filter.
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