US UFO Disclosure Day

buster said:
A person can lie but also be telling the truth. One can embellish or exaggerate, while also be telling the truth. Ever know someone that exaggerated a lot, but ultimately was telling the truth?

For example, what if Lazar saw what he said he saw, but lied about attending MIT? So, yes, you can.
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I think you’re conflating things here. The best lies are the ones sprinkled with some truth.
A person cannot be lying and telling truth at the same time. But they sure can lie and just sprinkle some true statements in there to make their lie more believable. That’s still a lie though.

Why would you believe a person that lied about his education? It’s quite obvious that Lazar lied about his education to bolster his claims. People love to argue from authority, and most people are much more likely to believe authoritative people.

So when the true statements intertwine with the lies for a specific reason, it’s likely the whole thing is a lie.
It would be different if someone found out Lazar stole a candy when he was a young boy, or perhaps cheated on a math exam in high school. Those, while they may point at his cheating nature, would not be related to his stories of aliens and experiments he claims he saw.
 
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KrisZ said:
I think you’re conflating things here. The best lies are the ones sprinkled with some truth.
A person cannot be lying and telling truth at the same time. But they sure can lie and just sprinkle some true statements in there to make their lie more believable. That’s still a lie though.
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You’re right. 👍🏼. I wasn't clear what I meant. I should have said parts of Lazar's story could be true, while he was also lying about his education and other things etc. That was my fault.
 
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buster said:
Let's look at this logically.

Billions of people on this planet believe in some type of god or religion based on traditional texts or values. That is accepted and is OK.

Some people today believe that a higher life form or intelligence further evolved "could be" interacting with our world based on "current" (as opposed to old texts containing far more absurd stories) testimonials from many credible sources.

What's the issue?
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IMO, there's no issue with believing a higher power exists, whether it be ET probing humans or an imaginary city in the sky where all "good" people go. It's the other fundamentals of religion that has the possibility (edited) of a problem.

buster said:
If these guys are found to be lying while testifying under oath I hope they pay the price. It's amazing how well some people can lie.

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Under oath doesn't mean anything, military officers lie as much as anybody else does unfortunately.
 
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There is an obvious order to the universe. MolaKule mentioned the laws of logic, math is another example. Those don’t exist anywhere, yet are the foundation of our existence. Those aren’t our constructs and they exist outside our own mind, yet they need a mind to be discovered.

Any alien “out there” would also have to follow the laws of logic and math. There is no way around that. Science cannot account for this inconvenient truth.
 
Stumbled upon this. LOL

This ties into what Ashton Forbes is claiming, than MH370 was indeed teleported and the video is not from a video game. He claims Ed Lin leaked the video 4 days after it was teleported which wouldn't have been enough time for a video game design company to replicate in 2014. Far fetched I know. This is where you get into some really out there stuff.....


About the author​

H. David Froning Jr. is a 30-year verteran aerospace engineer who worked on several designs and models for future space travel propulsion. He performed research and development work for the U.S. Air Force, Boeing, McDonnell Douglas, and his own Company, Flight Unlimited. Examples of his pioneering work include design of the configuration concept of the world's first antiballistic missiles and vertical launcher missiles that helped lead to today's vertical launching systems on naval ships.



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Steven Greer, who I can't stand and think is a grifter, said he has a source in the NSA who says the MH370 videos are real and that they show an Eistein Rosen bridge, aka wormhole.

It was done to send a signal to China.
 
It’s amazing to me that all of the FTL proponents never say anything specific or propose how certain behavior would be achieved. It’s always “jumping” from something onto something else, or “bending” of the “space fabric”, yet none of that is explained how it would work. Like what’s even a space fabric? Don’t tell me about bending it, explain what it is first and how can we measure /interact with it.
 
KrisZ said:
It’s amazing to me that all of the FTL proponents never say anything specific or propose how certain behavior would be achieved. It’s always “jumping” from something onto something else, or “bending” of the “space fabric”, yet none of that is explained how it would work. Like what’s even a space fabric? Don’t tell me about bending it, explain what it is first and how can we measure /interact with it.
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Right. Kinda remains in the theoretical world.

I have to wonder though if some of what Ashton Forbes is saying is true. I also wonder if manipulation of space time and anti-gravity is at the core of the secrecy. If weaponized it would make nukes seem like dinky fireworks.

Mainstream scientists would say it's science fiction and not possible.
 
MolaKule said:
People who tend to believe in the existence of life in the universe other than on Earth, put their faith in the Drake equation which is a purely hypothetical, unproven construct.

Below is an explanation of the equation and its terms or as I like to call them, the seven guesses.

None of the terms in the equation have any known or supportable data. Therefore, any probability of life other than on Earth is totally unknown.

The equation is:

N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L

where:

  • N is the number of civilizations in our galaxy capable of communicating with Earth
  • R* is the average number of new stars formed per year in our galaxy
  • fp is the fraction of those stars that have planetary systems
  • ne is the average number of planets per star capable of supporting life
  • fl is the fraction of these planets that actually develop life
  • fi is the fraction of theses planets that develop intelligent life
  • fc is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases signals of their existence into space
  • L is the length of time these civilizations communicate

History​

Frank Drake first introduced the equation in 1961 during the first scientific meeting on the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI), held at the Green Bank Observatory in West Virginia. Drake’s primary goal condensing the considerations that scientists confront when searching for extraterrestrial life. The purpose of the equation was not calculating a precise value, but promoting a productive discourse on the subject.

These are the original numbers from Drake’s presentation:

  • R* = 10
  • fp = 0.5
  • ne = 2.0
  • fl = 1.0
  • fi = 0.01
  • fc = 0.01
  • L = 10000
Drake’s original estimate was optimistic, suggesting that there between 10 and 10,000 advanced civilizations in the Milky Way. The variables drew from scientific knowledge at the time and Drake’s own assumptions. The equation was a starting point for a conversation.?

https://sciencenotes.org/drake-equation-odds-of-finding-extraterrestrials/
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I just realized something with the Drake’s equation. Notice he doesn’t have a variable for how many stars die in our galaxy each year🤔
 
Interesting. Could be some type of DARPA drone.

Ukraine is seeing them too. All countries do. Japan is going to release their files as well.




The video from Telegram was posted by Ukrainian Defense Ministry advisor Serhii 'Flash' Beskrestnov.

The video in the post was reportedly sent to him by military personnel. He wrote that the video was filmed in May 2025 at an altitude of 800 meters. In a previous post, he wrote:

“In 2023, I published a video from the front line in which aerial reconnaissance was observing an unidentified flying object. An hour later, I received a message… from representatives of a government agency that has been dealing with these issues in Ukraine since Soviet times,” he said.
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According to the Defense Ministry advisor, since the start of the war, the study of UFOs in Ukrainian airspace has become more of a military task than a civilian one. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have even created a “special comprehensive document” on the subject, approved by the Commander-in-Chief.

“So it is not only the United States that is dealing with such issues, because what is classified as a UFO could in fact be a new weapon used by our enemy,” “Flash” emphasized.
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The news article also includes a thermal imaging photo and a frame from the previous 2023 video. Unfortunately, I can’t manage to post it in the comments via Imgur: https://ua.korrespondent.net/ukraine/4877809-u-zsu-ye-spetsialnyi-dokument-schodo-nlo-flesh
 
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My criteria is I have to see movement or hear of movement that defies physics as we know it. For example, the Tic Tac. I'm not saying the Tic Tac was real, fake, ET or Lockheed, but it was observed via radar and visual eyes (4 people) to move from 80k ft to zero in .79 seconds.

 
And you may have noticed that they cropped out all the data on the display. The screen and the playback recording from an F/A-18 is not in a cellphone/tic-tac post format.
 
demarpaint said:
What they released was disappointing to me, very disappointing. Having said that, to think we are the only form of intelligent life in existence is a stretch. JMO
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Agree.
We have high opinions of ourselves. I see much the human race as we look like savages.

1. We are not advanced technology wise maybe in another couple hundred years/
2. We have no respect for life in general. We kill ANYTHING we dont like. From a snake in our garden to killing each other.
Many of us are mentally defective. The human race is a mess, many of us good people outweighed by the greedy selfish looking for power under the guise of compassion, never mind the criminals.:unsure:

BEAM ME UP SCOTTY !!!! ;)
 
CleanSump said:
And you may have noticed that they cropped out all the data on the display. The screen and the playback recording from an F/A-18 is not in a cellphone/tic-tac post format.
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They saw it with their own eyes.

Tic-Tac incident:

Alex Dietrich

Dave Fravor

Chad Underwood

Unnamed Co-pilot.

Lieutenant Colonel Cheeks Kurth (marine pilot)

Sean Cahill saw them from the flight deck of the Princeton

There's alot of pilots from later events who are remaining anonymous because they are either still in the Military, or just simply don't want the media spotlight.

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alarmguy said:
Agree.
We have high opinions of ourselves. I see much the human race as we look like savages.

1. We are not advanced technology wise maybe in another couple hundred years/
2. We have no respect for life in general. We kill ANYTHING we dont like. From a snake in our garden to killing each other.
Many of us are mentally defective. The human race is a mess, many of us good people outweighed by the greedy selfish looking for power under the guise of compassion, never mind the criminals.:unsure:

BEAM ME UP SCOTTY !!!! ;)
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What makes you think that a more advanced civilization cannot be even more savage than we are? Why can’t they be conquerors going from planet to planet, extract the resources destroying the environment and move on?

Science cannot give you morality, we take it at face value because a certainty culture, that cannot be discussed here, ingrained it so much in our modern society. It didn’t come from the science folks for sure.
 
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