US releases drone footage from collision with Russian fighter jet
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can you freez a frame and post it here? I can'tsee the stripes
So, shooting down a Russian airplane is an act of war, but knocking one of our aircraft down is OK?
I really don’t see any difference between a shoot down and an intentional mid air collision.
They’re both hostile acts.
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I can see them in your second screen shot
I seem to recall Turkey did this already, a few years ago, and Russia did nothing.
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ruSSkies like to provoke and then play victims.
Interviews with rus citizens are shocking, propaganda etched their brains, they literally hate anybody.
One spark, and ww3 is up.
I mean, obviously, right? Who is he explaining this to? We know that which is why we're never going to do it. Does he really think we need to be warned?
It's not as if they recovered it yet and pulled the camera footage. In fact, didn't US European Command say that they started a data wipe almost immediately? Obviously the video was transmitted and captured over the air. I don't know enough about transmission circuitry, but I do remember listening to a radio station during the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake. It started getting staticky, the DJ said something about an earthquake, and after about 10-15 seconds it went dead. I know this is rampant speculation (what else do we do here? but I could see the shock of an impact affecting the data transmission.
If they give the pilot a kill, it would be like a Mad Magazine cartoon I saw where a guy is talking to his buddy about how he stalked and shot the deer whose head is mounted on his wall, while his wife is telling her friend how he just ran into it with his car and then declared it to a game warden at a checkpoint as if he had hunted it.
It did kind of remind me of that Tomcat scene from The Final Countdown. The infamous one where it looks like it's about to hit the water before pulling up just in time. Only the Flanker pilot is trying to avoid hitting the Reaper and has an epic fail. There's other video from Russian planes showing really close flybys. I understand there's no need to fly that close to another aircraft other than for flight demos, movies, or hotdogging.
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This is going to be a nothing burger, just a slow news day. Pretty sure way bigger stuff goes on and we never hear about it until some NYT article 10 years later.
I guess the claim is that the footage was "spliced together". I think it just got turned around. Before the collision the light is shining on the left side of the vertical stabilizer. After the collision the light is shining on the right side. I'm guessing that there's probably more footage before they erased everything and ditched it in the water.
I get what the claim is - that this footage was deep faked or somehow manufactured. But it's clear that the stripes and that side of the propeller are well lit in the first screen cap, while it's pretty dark in the second screen cap. I don't see how it demonstrates anything other than a different position relative to the sun where the propeller isn't as well lit. The propeller as a whole looks pretty dark in the footage after the collision.
That was my assessment, that the pilot was dumping fuel and trying to create a air wake to knock it out of the sky.
However I see no evidence of any strike on that video. We're told it hit the prop. I see the opposite of that on the video, no damage to the prop nor any evidence it was struck by anything other than air pressure. Seems to me a high speed collision with the prop would have had dramatic effect and video evidence. I see nothing of the sort.
I'm no pilot but I am aware that strong air wakes can disrupt lift and otherwise knock aircraft down. I've seen a few reports of airplanes crashing after losing flight physics, in the wake of others. And, we're told a lot of things these days.
The damage is evident in the end of the video.
Done poorly?
The intent appears to be to bring down the drone without firing shots. If that was the intent, dumping fuel on it at high speed and altitude without colliding to my eyes appears to have been expertly accomplished. The drone was in the pilots blind spot, it appears, at some points.
And, as I said above, it did not appear to me to have physically struck the drone. It doused it with fuel, and caused a jet wake sufficient to cripple the drone. Seems the US did something similar x4 earlier this year.
Oh, I didn't see that. Thanks for pointing it out.
The fact remains, it appears to have been expertly done to knock it out of the sky without firing a shot.
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Stripe, also visible in first grab:
It's faint but there. The prop is in the shade.
Damage:
Stripe, also visible in first grab:
It's faint but there. The prop is in the shade.
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