We buy a book of stamps every 6-9 months. You?
US Postal Service suspending pension contributions
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And that $15-16 pays for the service you receive for most of the year?
The US postal service does not deliver on the end of a motorboat or seaplane - pure gibberish. US postal service only delivers on year round regularly maintained public roads. For those that live outside normal routes they can receive mail "general delivery" - meaning you go to the nearest post office and pick it up.
You also pay more to ship packages to places like Alaska and Hawaii.
More reason to sunset the post office. Do taxpayers need to subsidize Amazon delivery for rural areas?
Criticism is fun, but doesn't solve anything. Let's hear some good solutions.
Never say never. Couldn't find any snowmobile or cable car pics, lol. https://news.usps.com/2017/06/13/special-deliveries/
https://facts.usps.com/unusual-delivery-method-dock-to-dock/ ......... https://facts.usps.com/boat-delivery-on-the-detroit-river/
https://facts.usps.com/8-mile-mule-train-delivery/
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That would drive me to the nut house after day 4, sitting in van for 8 hours, doing nothing, = prison.
Yes.
UPS doing everything to get rid of older employees at the top of the pay scale.
The company I work for also offering ‘early retirement’ package.
doitmyself, thanks for illustrating my point.
Yes they do, but it’s also electric bills, advertising, newspapers, all sorts of things. Your argument is reductio ad absurdum. Who or what draws the line? Wyoming doesn’t get mail because it’s more expensive than Connecticut?
Stop delivering packages. Was never post office's intent. Intent was to allow communication not ship goods.
Change delivery to 3 days a week max. Maybe 2?
End forever stamps and double the rates.
We shall then see what is important and what is not important, and can move forward from there. I don't think the post office is even needed but there will need to be a transition. This could be step 1.
I said packages. Post office should not deliver packages at all IMHO - was never the intent of a post office. If they want to do so at a profit then they should privatize. So yes, people should pay there own way.
I am willing to allow the post office to exist for communications - however I don't believe anyone is truly using it for that anymore. So double the rate for a bill or letter and find out. $2 for an important communication is not oppressive.
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This ia brutal approach but would most likely work.
If anything they can get rid of Saturday delivery.
I am fond of the USPS for many reasons, especially since my letter carrier, growing up, looked like Mr. Mcfeely from Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. He looked very similar, older guy who wore the hat, and the cart. I thought I lived in Mr.Roger's hood lol.
I have no quarrel with postal employees. However I believe the post office is yet one more un-necessary thing that were both funding and arguing over while our government is functionally bankrupt anyway.
The really funny part is this thread is about govco ending funding to the postal pension. We the people will be no doubt liable for this pension anyway - similar rulings have already been made in courts regarding state pensions. Therefore not funding pension is akin to a private company not paying there FICA taxes - which would land the managers in jail.
More different rules for different folks.
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Yes, I think Illinoise has this issue. IIRC it's in the constitution somehow to pay pensions, no matter what. I mean it makes sense kind of, you signed up for its etc. but the gov't should act responsibly, which is likely impossible when you have little accountability when a block of voters will vote you in no matter how bad it gets.
Personally, the USPS is the last thing I'd liek to see go.
State funding programs and free money to NGOs should be severely scrutinized and cut back. I.E. the Minnesota scams (also prevalent likely everywhere else), homelessness in CA, billions in more homeless out etc.
Again this is more misinformation. The Federal government does not fund or contribute to USPS pensions. The Postal Service funds them, and they are distributed by the Office of Personnel Management. If the Postal Service were to go bankrupt or become insolvent, THEN the Federal government would be responsible. So far as I know, the only Federal funds that the USPS has received are for its new EV program, which certainly could become a cluster ....
Its not misinformation because the government runs the post office. Post office is not paying pension which means government is not paying pension. Same.
The thread started because the USPS can't currently fund their pension. However its not really a pension on the funding side because they will never be allowed to shed the pension like a company that goes bankrupt, hence we the people will pay either way. So its the same as a private company not paying there FICA, which is never allowed.
Whether the post office makes money or doesn't is irrelevant. Government is not a business. We no longer need a post office for the security or business of the nation as we did in 1776 when we in fact did. Therefore there is no good reason whatsoever to keep it functioning - profitable or not. Sunset it and focus on important things.
For those who are quick to favor abolishing the US Postal Service, a simple summary by AI is appropriate:
The USPS is a public, independent entity of the executive branch, not a private corporation. Established in 1970, it functions as a government-business hybrid that is self-funded through postage sales rather than taxpayer money, yet it is mandated to provide universal service to all American addresses.
The USPS is a public, independent entity of the executive branch, not a private corporation. Established in 1970, it functions as a government-business hybrid that is self-funded through postage sales rather than taxpayer money, yet it is mandated to provide universal service to all American addresses.
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The NLRB is a government union that protects other unions. That is a conflict in my book. The outcome of every unfair labor practice charge is determined on day one...guilty.
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By universal service it must mean that if we don't deliver to your address you must rent a PO Box and pay for all the junk mail. Our local post office is open 9:30 -4:30 and half day Wednesday and Saturday if they have employees to cover those half days. It's almost impossible for a family where both work to get a package because of those hours. The USPS has really gone down hill over the years.