US, Philippines vow joint defense ‘anywhere in the South China Sea’
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The polls at the time of the average person in the Philippines showed they were still very pro American and Anti Chinese.
Do you think Washington DC represents the average American citizen's views very well? Same thing.
Found it: https://www.rappler.com/nation/56085-philippines-usa-pew-research/
The Philippines is really two countries. Manila and then the rest of the country.
Washington DC is a likewise bubble within the US
I see, Duterte was very outspoken against the USA but good to know their general population still has high approvals of the US.
Not really. Mindanao is a country all to itself on many levels.
Had my fair share of that liquid as well. One Red Horse that I didn’t finish. Swill.No big deal. Really, the Chinese sailors just want some R&R in Olongapo. They've heard how cheap bar fines are and some wild and crazy the bar girls are there.
Also the beer is very good.
,Omy, Alongapo, lets see now, it was 1969,,,,I was parcipating in the Vietnam War,,we, the Navy were frequent vistors to the PI . Hmmm, oh yes, Alongapo- dirt streets, lots of bars ,was hot and it rains, ok that was the nice version . If I typed the real vision I stilll have of that place,,I'd would be in the ban for life seat here...No big deal. Really, the Chinese sailors just want some R&R in Olongapo. They've heard how cheap bar fines are and some wild and crazy the bar girls are there.
Also the beer is very good.
of course the water was nice and ........................food on the street was unusal and we were 20 years old once..ps it never snows there,lol o yes, went somewhere there, out in the jungle setting,,met folks that had never seen blue eyed people,,,amazing..the South Pacific , it is warm there....
I honestly have no idea. Outright I'd say no because that'll involve moving more equipment and stuff around where we're already starting to stretch thin but strategically, we may have to. Locals may like the money that'll pour in for a little bit but not after a while.
I think that has changed quite a bit since they left. FedEx has a big distribution center there. A airport terminal was built to take load off of Manila and some other companies have moved in over the years.
A former coworker was a safety officer there. Said that he was part of the team that closed it down to return it to the Philippines government.
You are exactly correct.
and BTW, the people of the Philippines love the American people. I wonder how many people know, they grew up watching our TV programs. The older group knows EVERY American MUSIC HIT from the 50's 60's 70's and 80's
Old told timers remember WWII American planes getting shot down. they had the greatest respect for us. One spoke in horror to actually seeing American soldiers fall out of the plane.
The people all speak ENGLISH, all street signs, public buildings, products for sale are English in all the main industrial/financial centers of the country such as Manila who's malls, condos and stores would put many American malls to shame.
The Philippine people who came here for a better life, did it the right way, some waited for over 10 years for permission to come over legally. They actually believe you go to school to learn and get a successful position in life. They are a generous people, often helping their own get educated and successful using their own money.
A supermarket in Manila will have all the products and more from USA companies labelled like you see them here.
The people still respect us but then we have the politicians and they are like politicians all over the world, most are corrupt and there was a time Marcos walked all over his people while the USA do to its importance militarily looked the other way, ignored the torture chambers illegal detentions. The people after an uprising kicked out our warships, like hello? Who can blame them.
Now we got a Marcos relative in office once again, the educated people of the country are in horror but in this country the poor and rural areas rule. Promise them everything and they vote accordingly. Sound familiar, think about that. (but dont post, no politics)
My memory is not good but as I recall the ones that wanted the US out were the communists, the New Peoples Army faction that was prevalent back then and still exists today in some parts. They were killing US servicemen off base.
Divest everything from China. Now.
Boycott all China.
Boycott all China.
duterte is complicated. he wasn’t as much anti-american as he was totally anti-obama and anti-biden, and anti-makati and anti-globalist. it was obama’s fecklessness that ceded the south china sea to the prc, despite the international court of justice’s solid finding in favor of the philippines. obama’s ambassador to manila, philip goldberg, then made astonishingly vitriolic, personal, attacks on duterte during the latter’s presidential campaign. duterte’s popularity at home had way, way more to do with his war on drugs and corruption. isn’t it ironic that washington, which supported the marcos family, then helped boot them into exile, now embraces marcos jr.?
Well said
They are getting two Cyclone class patrol boats from the USN which should suit them quite well in their strategy. Also in the mix are a couple of USCG patrol boats which are not as good but still something.
Back in the Obama era they got three of the USCG WHEC cutters which were 50 plus years old and were beaten up. Still, they were pretty much free. I heard that one of them had the twisted hull which was a rumor back in my time. They promptly ran one onto a reef which took it out of service for quite a while. No parts. They drink fuel like crazy too especially when the turbines are online.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...yclone-class-patrol-ships-to-philippine-navy/
Back in the Obama era they got three of the USCG WHEC cutters which were 50 plus years old and were beaten up. Still, they were pretty much free. I heard that one of them had the twisted hull which was a rumor back in my time. They promptly ran one onto a reef which took it out of service for quite a while. No parts. They drink fuel like crazy too especially when the turbines are online.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...yclone-class-patrol-ships-to-philippine-navy/
