Unkilllable briggs part 2- Pics and story!

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Well y'all, you asked for it, you got it. I took it apart. No trace of any of the dirt in the cylider head, though it was heavily covered in oil, and the plug was very fouled. The cylinder is scored heavily, but not nearly as bad as I expected. In fact, that seems to be the theme for the entire dissassembly process. The piston is scored VERY badly- it is very rough, you will be able to see in the pics below. When at TDC the piston is "tilted" slightly to one side, and the ends of the strokes were very difficult to turn the crankshaft any more. After some finnageling, I managed to unscrew the big end from the crankshaft. Unbelievably, the bearing surface itself isn't too bad. Sure, it is definitely scored, running your finger over it feels like drawing over fine sandpaper. The knock was indeed in the big end bearing, there was a good .5-1.0 mm of play in the bearing. But infact, the most damaged component was the camshaft. The lobes are, well... Worn. Very very worn, very rough surface, scoured and simply awful. The pointed ends of the lobes were sheared and worn flat. The camshaft bearing surfaces were worn, but not as bad as they could be. Piston rings intact. All in all, it survived pretty dang well for what it went through, and I have no doubt if I reassembled it (not likely) it would run, and run well enough, (except for the heavy smoking, knocking etc) Pictures are pretty big in size, so it will be about 20 minutes before they are uploaded. Stay tuned! Oh and looking down at the crankpin, you can see clumps of dirt in oil. (I cleaned it out best I could with a liberal spraying of dish soap and the hose)
 
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Sorry y'all I forgot I had been invited to a dance thing tonight. Anyhoo, here are dem pics.

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Yeah and the plastic on this cam ain't no cheap, weak plastic. That is sturdy, solid stuff that on feel could almost pass as metal. Now that I've cleaned it off even more, the piston is almost.... Pretty. The ENTIRE piston is covered in vertical gouge marks. When the light hits it just right, it reflects and is very cool looking.
 
The cam gear is slightly worn, and looks somewhat like the lobes themselves, but they are mostly fine. Also, It is a steel/aluminum bar with plastic gear, and the cam lobes are attatched to a plastic sheath around the steel.
 
That looks rough. You should file the rod bearings just a little to take up the slack as someone else mentioned. Debur everything as best as you can without going overboard. Reassemble and fill the engine with half 30 weight or whatever you can spare the other half some motor honey or something gooey like that and see what she do
 
Originally Posted By: stxonall8
That looks rough. You should file the rod bearings just a little to take up the slack as someone else mentioned. Debur everything as best as you can without going overboard. Reassemble and fill the engine with half 30 weight or whatever you can spare the other half some motor honey or something gooey like that and see what she do


Totally agree!
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That is one fried engine.

Why bother even putting it back together? It would most likely be cheaper to replace it. Interesting pics to see, though.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
That is one fried engine.

Why bother even putting it back together? It would most likely be cheaper to replace it. Interesting pics to see, though.


I don't understand. It's a test platform, not a mower. Replacing it wouldn't have any purpose. The only expenditures I see here are time and just over a pint of oil.

It's a shame he doesn't have a cylinder hone and a set of oversize rings, I'd bet it could run almost like new again with that treatment.
 
Yeah....scratch what I just said there completely. I thought he was dis-assembling his families mower that he was asking abouty putting Castrol SB 10W-40 a little while ago - I thought that was 'part 1'.

Didn't realize 'part 1' was him trying to destroy an old Briggs, all the work that went into THAT.

Carry on!
 
I could probably put it back together, but I would have to figure out how to remove the thing from the end of the crank rod, for the blade attatchment. It isn't welded on, but I can't break it loose to get it off. If I can manage to do that, I will surely put it back together. The rings are in pretty decent shape, plenty springy and not even scored. I had a brainstorm. You know that Lubro-moly MOS2 stuff? I thought if I put it back together, after filing (how? with what? How do I know its good?) the crankpin down, I would put in some QS Syn SAE 30, and a good bit of the lubro-moly, then run it for a bit, then take the head off to see what, if any, effect it has had.
 
I don't know that you'd be able to see what MoS2 would do, if anything for scars of that size. It's my understanding that it works with much smaller imperfections. If I were you, I'd go with Restore instead. just buy a small can and mix the oil 2 parts oil and 1 part Restore. Run it enough to get it up to full temp, then shut it down and let it cool overnight. The next day, fire it up and see what happens. I've always said Restore works for beaters and I'm pretty sure that's what you have there.
 
I agree on trying Restore, if you try anything. It would be really, really neat to see if the metal mix in it actually DOES 'plate' to worn metal surfaces....
 
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