Just what we need. A made in China Volvo for $5000
ultra isnt selling up here
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Seems like Ford is practically giving away Volvo. I don't think it's smart to help China dominate auto manufacturing. Eventually, they will be competing (on an unlevel playing field) against Chinese-made autos.
Of course if the average consumer can save a few 100 dollars on a China car, they'll buy it, even though that may mean they won't have much future employment opportunities. And the auto media will say how great and reliable Chinese cars are, kind of like what they do with KIA and Hyundai lol. That's my prediction anyway.
Of course if the average consumer can save a few 100 dollars on a China car, they'll buy it, even though that may mean they won't have much future employment opportunities. And the auto media will say how great and reliable Chinese cars are, kind of like what they do with KIA and Hyundai lol. That's my prediction anyway.
Originally Posted By: Seguino
Just what we need. A made in China Volvo for $5000
Would that they sold Chinese goods at a fair price. The Chinese Volvo will be $1000 less lol. That's how they usually do it. Just under cut the competitions price by a small percentage.
Just what we need. A made in China Volvo for $5000
Would that they sold Chinese goods at a fair price. The Chinese Volvo will be $1000 less lol. That's how they usually do it. Just under cut the competitions price by a small percentage.
I'd most defintely pay 1000 more bucks for a Swedish made car vs a chinese made car.... even if they were identical in every other aspect
Like Castrol Edge, Pennzoil Ultra high price at deep discount Walmart isn't selling very well, specially against cheaper and popular Mobil 1.
When they are available at Pep Boys, Kragen ... in few months and not selling well for price too high, you will see some sale/rebate in summer/fall.
When they are available at Pep Boys, Kragen ... in few months and not selling well for price too high, you will see some sale/rebate in summer/fall.
I'd think that in general, Wally*Mart shoppers are looking for cheap.
So, seems an odd place to start marketing a new, upper-tier oil.
To me anyhoo...
So, seems an odd place to start marketing a new, upper-tier oil.
To me anyhoo...
I was in WM's oil aisle the other day and there was this guy with a cart with NINE jugs of PP in it. I jokingly asked him if he heard they were were going to quit making the stuff and he said no. He was a mechanic for a natural gas company and PP was what they used in all the company trucks. I told him I was going for the PU and he replied that the PP was an excellent oil and the PU was just too expensive no matter how good it was.
Around here upper-tier means Supertech oil and a Fram orange can from WM. Really getting ritzy means going to Napa and buying a Napa Gold filter and Napa brand oil. Speaking of which, my local Napa has Pennzoil on sale right now for $2.49/qt.
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Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Seems like Ford is practically giving away Volvo. I don't think it's smart to help China dominate auto manufacturing. Eventually, they will be competing (on an unlevel playing field) against Chinese-made autos.
Of course if the average consumer can save a few 100 dollars on a China car, they'll buy it, even though that may mean they won't have much future employment opportunities. And the auto media will say how great and reliable Chinese cars are, kind of like what they do with KIA and Hyundai lol. That's my prediction anyway.
what hurts me is that people compare South Korea with COMMUNIST China. There's a huge difference in manufacturing and quality control practices between the two country.
Seems like Ford is practically giving away Volvo. I don't think it's smart to help China dominate auto manufacturing. Eventually, they will be competing (on an unlevel playing field) against Chinese-made autos.
Of course if the average consumer can save a few 100 dollars on a China car, they'll buy it, even though that may mean they won't have much future employment opportunities. And the auto media will say how great and reliable Chinese cars are, kind of like what they do with KIA and Hyundai lol. That's my prediction anyway.
what hurts me is that people compare South Korea with COMMUNIST China. There's a huge difference in manufacturing and quality control practices between the two country.
Originally Posted By: Hemi426
Around here upper-tier means Supertech oil and a Fram orange can from WM. Really getting ritzy means going to Napa and buying a Napa Gold filter and Napa brand oil. Speaking of which, my local Napa has Pennzoil on sale right now for $2.49/qt.
Around here upper-tier means Supertech oil and a Fram orange can from WM. Really getting ritzy means going to Napa and buying a Napa Gold filter and Napa brand oil. Speaking of which, my local Napa has Pennzoil on sale right now for $2.49/qt.
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
kind of like what they do with KIA and Hyundai lol. That's my prediction anyway.
That's ignorance.
kind of like what they do with KIA and Hyundai lol. That's my prediction anyway.
That's ignorance.
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
And the auto media will say how great and reliable Chinese cars are, kind of like what they do with KIA and Hyundai lol. That's my prediction anyway.
South Korea is much different with China. South Korean technology is much advance compares with Chinese's. Samsung and LG makes some of the best HDTV's, Frigs, Washing machines ...
And the auto media will say how great and reliable Chinese cars are, kind of like what they do with KIA and Hyundai lol. That's my prediction anyway.
South Korea is much different with China. South Korean technology is much advance compares with Chinese's. Samsung and LG makes some of the best HDTV's, Frigs, Washing machines ...
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
And the auto media will say how great and reliable Chinese cars are, kind of like what they do with KIA and Hyundai lol. That's my prediction anyway.
South Korea is much different with China. South Korean technology is much advance compares with Chinese's. Samsung and LG makes some of the best HDTV's, Frigs, Washing machines ...
Agree with both of you.
I have Samsung LED TV, LG kitchen appliances, and other items.
Top-notch all the way.
My brother just bought a Hyundai Genesis, and it's amazing in quality and style.
Korea is what Japan was in the 80s. That is, a force to be reckoned with.
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
And the auto media will say how great and reliable Chinese cars are, kind of like what they do with KIA and Hyundai lol. That's my prediction anyway.
South Korea is much different with China. South Korean technology is much advance compares with Chinese's. Samsung and LG makes some of the best HDTV's, Frigs, Washing machines ...
Agree with both of you.
I have Samsung LED TV, LG kitchen appliances, and other items.
Top-notch all the way.
My brother just bought a Hyundai Genesis, and it's amazing in quality and style.
Korea is what Japan was in the 80s. That is, a force to be reckoned with.
For it's price range PU is competing with M1EP. Limited market and
M1 has the loyal following. And I don't think the average Joe is impressed
with the clean engine hype. Most people thing the inside of engines are
supposed to be hot, greasy dirty places. They should have marketed it
for EP and as a great anti-wear oil. I'll be up for an OCI in 2 weeks, will
give PU a shot.
M1 has the loyal following. And I don't think the average Joe is impressed
with the clean engine hype. Most people thing the inside of engines are
supposed to be hot, greasy dirty places. They should have marketed it
for EP and as a great anti-wear oil. I'll be up for an OCI in 2 weeks, will
give PU a shot.
There will be a MIR on Ultra.
Count on it.
SOPUS is testing the market, as BP did with Edge.
You can always reduce the price of a product if it isn't doing well at a given price point, but it is very difficult to raise the price of a product that has become established at a given price point.
Edge was an attempt at a mass-market "super premium" oil.
Ultra is the same.
If SOPUS can move Ultra at its current price point, it will stay there.
Since this is unlikely, there will be MIR deals and price reductions, just as there were with Edge.
Count on it.
SOPUS is testing the market, as BP did with Edge.
You can always reduce the price of a product if it isn't doing well at a given price point, but it is very difficult to raise the price of a product that has become established at a given price point.
Edge was an attempt at a mass-market "super premium" oil.
Ultra is the same.
If SOPUS can move Ultra at its current price point, it will stay there.
Since this is unlikely, there will be MIR deals and price reductions, just as there were with Edge.
How did we get
"ultra isnt selling up here"
and
"Volvo is not my favorite car company anymore.."
in the same thread/topic?
"ultra isnt selling up here"
and
"Volvo is not my favorite car company anymore.."
in the same thread/topic?
Originally Posted By: Johnny
How did we get
"ultra isnt selling up here"
and
"Volvo is not my favorite car company anymore.."
in the same thread/topic?
Just wondering the same thing myself Johnny.
How did we get
"ultra isnt selling up here"
and
"Volvo is not my favorite car company anymore.."
in the same thread/topic?
Just wondering the same thing myself Johnny.
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