UK Looks to be leaving the EU

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Some political topics are allowed while others are not. Not my rules nor my forum...but IF it was my choice, I would allow religion and/or politics. Basically, those two topics involve so much of our lives and decisions that it's rather silly to pretend any deep discussion could occur without them being a part.

All it seems to take is one person feeling "offended" because they don't like a post. Offended at what? Words on a screen? Don't read it then.

Anyway...it's not my forum....and I don't enforce the rules.
 
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Isn't this thread politics? I thought politics and religion are not allowed.


Yes it is, extremely political.

It SEEMS only not allowed if you have honest questions about what business men had done before they entered politics- you can't post about that.

bobistheoilguy is a global site, and I would hope and expect the rules apply in a professional way to all around the globe. I would certainly question, that by allowing such a violation to continue, that perhaps you can say, BITOG is pro British prejudice.
 
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Originally Posted By: pbm
Here's a true story from Britain.....I have an inlaw who purchased an expensive 'flat' (apartment) in a suburb of London.
One of her neighbors (a single white man) likes to cook a 'traditional' breakfast of rashers (bacon), bangers (sausages), eggs and brown bread on the weekends.

A muslim neighbor (this is a well to do area so this isn't an 'ignorant' jihadist type...at least I hope not)...rang his bell and complained asking that he no longer cook PORK products as it bothered his family....

How should this white man respond? I know how I would respond....

Can you imagine how bold and demanding muslims will become as their numbers grow...

PS: This is happening right here in the USA...Google "Texas Pig Farmer asked to move by muslim neighbor"....In classic Texas style, the pig farmer responded by staging pig races every Friday night...good for him...


This is truly absurd. To come to a different country /,culture and to DEMAND special privileges is INSANE. We may be witnessing not only of end of European political integration, but also a western /,white culture as it is. This is far more scary.
 
Originally Posted By: pbm
Here's a true story from Britain.....I have an inlaw who purchased an expensive 'flat' (apartment) in a suburb of London.
One of her neighbors (a single white man) likes to cook a 'traditional' breakfast of rashers (bacon), bangers (sausages), eggs and brown bread on the weekends.

A muslim neighbor (this is a well to do area so this isn't an 'ignorant' jihadist type...at least I hope not)...rang his bell and complained asking that he no longer cook PORK products as it bothered his family....

How should this white man respond? I know how I would respond....

Can you imagine how bold and demanding muslims will become as their numbers grow...

PS: This is happening right here in the USA...Google "Texas Pig Farmer asked to move by muslim neighbor"....In classic Texas style, the pig farmer responded by staging pig races every Friday night...good for him...


Same goes for transgender folks, we must obey their demands or lawsuits fill be filed to correct wrongdoing(s).
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
Nothing changed overnight.

Something did. Like a crash of one utopia, when met with reality. Great Tulip Bubble ended like that: from one little and insignificant step.
More utopia crashes to come, in many places, including ours..
 
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice


Many British millennials say their futures are screwed with this decision and will hurt job prospects.

Why didn't they already have a job? Looks like their prospects were already in the gutter. The only way is up. If it's millennials still in school, who cares. They do know anything about the real world in the first place. All they know is what some intellectual that has never had a real job has told them.
 
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Isn't this thread politics? I thought politics and religion are not allowed.


Yes it is, extremely political.

It SEEMS only not allowed if you have honest questions about what business men had done before they entered politics- you can't post about that.

bobistheoilguy is a global site, and I would hope and expect the rules apply in a professional way to all around the globe. I would certainly question, that by allowing such a violation to continue, that perhaps you can say, BITOG is pro British prejudice.


I think that this will be shut down soon. However before that happens I have to say that one of the things that peeves the out voters is, apart from immigration, the imposition of petty, sometimes absurd, rules coming from a bunch of unelected people. One example is the rule regarding curvature and size of a bunch bananas! Another is how straight cucumbers must be! Really!
 
Originally Posted By: Win
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Originally Posted By: Nick R
The future and success of the world in the future will depend on unity and cooperation...
And the future depends on cooperation and unity.


This is a good one
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So why can't we cooperate from the comfort of each other's borders and countries? Why do we all have to be mixed in, like some sort of stew, under one big government, like EU? Have you even bothered to see what is happening in EU countries right now besides listening to the major media outlets?




Someone needs to buy the world a Coke.


this is funny.even more funny, is the newest coke slogan -- "taste the feeling". pleeeease.what does that even mean? had to be written by a woman.
nick makes a good point, if we lived in a utopian world, in which we all talked about unicorns and rainbows, and feelings.oh, yea -- taste the feeling.

the post mentioning the texas pig farmer is good.

merk mentioning devil worshippers -- keep 'em coming, merk.love your posts.

lot of laughs here.thanks, guys.
 
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Originally Posted By: pbm
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Quote:
What does the EU do that cannot be handled by each individual nation?


Create a unified economic force against "troublemakers" to the East.

A veritable "green light" for malfeasance makers who would like the rest of the EU to crumble.
Yeah, that must be it.

One of the issues that troubled many Britons was being told they had to take 'refugees' by Brussels...many of these 'refugees' did not want to ASSIMILATE but rather make DEMANDS on their host....the same thing is happening here in America...I only hope we have the same fortitude as the Brits to take control of our future.

Say NO to Globalism...


I was not referring to refugees. I am referring to Putin;

Nothing would make him happier than a Balkanizing Europe.
 
Interesting stuff...

European Central Bank policymaker Francois Villeroy de Galhau delivered a warning over the City of London financial center which handles trillions of euros of business even though it lies outside the ECB's jurisdiction.

That was at risk, including the "passport" arrangement under Europe's single market rules which allow London banks to do business with clients in the euro zone, even though Britain never joined the common currency.

"If tomorrow Britain is not part of the single market, the City cannot keep this European passport, and clearing houses cannot be located in London either," he told France Inter radio. The only way around this was for Britain to follow Norway, which lies outside the EU but has joined the single market.

This means signing up to the rules, including the free movement of workers - likely to be opposed in Britain where the "leave" camp promised to control immigration from the EU.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-wrapup-idUKKCN0ZB090
 
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Many British millennials say their futures are screwed with this decision and will hurt job prospects.

Yes, and if the vote went the other way, many British millenials would be saying exactly the same thing. Heck, Formula 1 writers are already speculating it will help ensure that most teams have Britons doing most team jobs, with international recruitment only happening at the top engineering levels, and many of those are Brits anyhow.
 
Originally Posted By: Y_K
Something did. Like a crash of one utopia, when met with reality. Great Tulip Bubble ended like that: from one little and insignificant step.
More utopia crashes to come, in many places, including ours..

But there was no tulip bubble in the UK. As I said, this was reaction to no real overnight change. The pesky thing is that crashes occasionally happen without even such a perceivable cause, let alone a realistic one in the first place. At least with the UK business, there was a perceivable cause. It just wasn't matched by a lot of reality.
 
I've read of this threat to the City before and find it to be not very credible.
The City was a financial hub long before the EU or the ECB existed and it will remain so.
Why would any entity moving funds need the permission of the ECB to move them through London and how could this be prevented in any event?
The answer is that they don't and it can't. Capital moves through all sorts of cities and there is nothing that the ECB can do to prevent Euro zone countries from continuing to deal with the City, which must have economic advantages or it wouldn't be happening to begin with.
The ECB and the Eurocracy should also bear in mind that there are global free trade agreements today which preclude some of the behavior toward an emancipated UK that they threaten. I find most of these threats to be hot air. Bear in mind that the UK isn't Finland and won't be easily pushed around.
The EU as a whole must reform the ECB. The ECB must have both the authority and the mandate to take counter-cyclical action and Euro zone governments must also have the freedom to incur much higher deficits to allow fiscal policies which will enable them to bring an end to the heretofore endless recession that plagues much of the Euro zone.
It's as though the worthies running things had never heard of Keynes and have learned nothing from their observation of the relative prosperity of the US.
An economy operating well below capacity cannot be expected to recover on a regime of tax increases combined with austerity, since this is the exact opposite of what's needed to ignite growth.
Meanwhile, most of the Euro zone suffers under this economically ignorant maladministration.
 
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
I am referring to Putin;

Nothing would make him happier than a Balkanizing Europe.


You're right, he put his country provocatively close to all those bases.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
I am referring to Putin;

Nothing would make him happier than a Balkanizing Europe.


You're right, he put his country provocatively close to all those bases.


I, in no way, suggested the actions of NATO post Berlin Wall, wasn't part of the problem. The difference is one side wants freedom of the people to flourish while the other does not.
 
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Originally Posted By: pbm
Here's a true story from Britain.....I have an inlaw who purchased an expensive 'flat' (apartment) in a suburb of London.
One of her neighbors (a single white man) likes to cook a 'traditional' breakfast of rashers (bacon), bangers (sausages), eggs and brown bread on the weekends.

A muslim neighbor (this is a well to do area so this isn't an 'ignorant' jihadist type...at least I hope not)...rang his bell and complained asking that he no longer cook PORK products as it bothered his family....

How should this white man respond? I know how I would respond....



Another thing to vote up/down about in your Homeowner's Association! Hooray!

Really, people just don't like people as much as we pretend. And with 7 billion of us, we're living on top of each other now, and, well, literally smelling each other. This tension "floor" has filled upwards and it doesn't take as much to make us snap as the old days.

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Can you imagine how bold and demanding muslims will become as their numbers grow...


Look what white dudes demanded from the Native Americans 200 years ago...
 
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts


Nothing would make him happier than a Balkanizing Europe.


Whatever you want to say about Russia, they are perhaps the only major NATION in Europe that is absolutely determined to keep muslims OUT.

Again who died and decided that all white gentile nations MUST have hordes of alien peoples flooding their nations whether the majority of the native population wants this or not? It's the same
chosenites that promote DIEversity, multiKult, and
the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act in the USA, which has been THE most destructive law passed here perhaps since our nation was founded.

Good for Russia!
 
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Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts


Nothing would make him happier than a Balkanizing Europe.


Whatever you want to say about Russia, they are perhaps the only major NATION in Europe that is absolutely determined to keep muslims OUT.

Yet they are subject to terrorist attacks and massacres just like any other nation.
 
Originally Posted By: pbm
Here's a true story from Britain.....I have an inlaw who purchased an expensive 'flat' (apartment) in a suburb of London.
One of her neighbors (a single white man) likes to cook a 'traditional' breakfast of rashers (bacon), bangers (sausages), eggs and brown bread on the weekends.

A muslim neighbor (this is a well to do area so this isn't an 'ignorant' jihadist type...at least I hope not)...rang his bell and complained asking that he no longer cook PORK products as it bothered his family....

How should this white man respond? I know how I would respond....

Can you imagine how bold and demanding muslims will become as their numbers grow...

PS: This is happening right here in the USA...Google "Texas Pig Farmer asked to move by muslim neighbor"....In classic Texas style, the pig farmer responded by staging pig races every Friday night...good for him...


I went ahead and looked up the pig farmer story, a Craig Baker.

Started in 2006 here:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/16095716/ns/us...n/#.U7Dwj7FqMmk

Though it was a misunderstanding, he held the pig race (singular) anyway, on Dec 30 '06:
http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/katy-n...ces-1554958.php
(with more offenses mentioned from the Muslim group than
originally carried by the earlier AP story)

And, in Jun 2015, they are cordial neighbors:
http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/katy/n...-to-6323464.php

"Everything has been good," Baker said. "We haven't had any problems since they apologized to me (for allegedly lying). We have a real good relations now as far as I'm concerned. They've been peaceful and respectful."
 
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