Uber Self-Driv Death: Disabled Pedest Avoidance!!!!

[oil_film_movies]

Originally Posted by dishdude
Originally Posted by fdcg27
Someone signed off on the implementation that brought about this woman's death.
That person's name is Doug Ducey.
OK, Doug Ducey may have allowed Uber to operate on Arizona roads due to his pro-business, pro-innovation beliefs, or maybe he was getting paid off by deep pocket Uber, but the main culprit is Uber's technical team's idiocy & lack of basic safety common sense, and the lack of NHTSA (feds) oversight.
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...self-driving-program-governor-doug-ducey

It does raise an interesting question: Can a tech worker, manager, code writer, or specs (functions) system designer type of person be charged with some kind of crime for bad decisions? Sure liability in civil lawsuits, but criminal law? I don't know. Here, the bad decision was to completely turn off the standard Volvo Automatic Braking system, & also to ignore detections from Uber's sensors, with exactly NO warning lights or sounds to the driver, & no automatic braking from Uber's own system sensors installed. Note 2 systems were turned off to detections & braking or warning actions, doubly bad.

 

[DoubleWasp]

Sacrificing a human being in exchange for a more pleasant ride experience. Corporate America is truly alive and well.

 

[Vikas]

Have you guys seen this one?



May be that is why Uber disbaled that system??

 

[fdcg27]

Originally Posted by oil_film_movies
Originally Posted by dishdude
Originally Posted by fdcg27
Someone signed off on the implementation that brought about this woman's death.
That person's name is Doug Ducey.
OK, Doug Ducey may have allowed Uber to operate on Arizona roads due to his pro-business, pro-innovation beliefs, or maybe he was getting paid off by deep pocket Uber, but the main culprit is Uber's technical team's idiocy & lack of basic safety common sense, and the lack of NHTSA (feds) oversight.
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...self-driving-program-governor-doug-ducey

It does raise an interesting question: Can a tech worker, manager, code writer, or specs (functions) system designer type of person be charged with some kind of crime for bad decisions? Sure liability in civil lawsuits, but criminal law? I don't know. Here, the bad decision was to completely turn off the standard Volvo Automatic Braking system, & also to ignore detections from Uber's sensors, with exactly NO warning lights or sounds to the driver, & no automatic braking from Uber's own system sensors installed. Note 2 systems were turned off to detections & braking or warning actions, doubly bad.



Felony charges for having made a bad decision with what were reasonably foreseeable potential consequences?
You betcha!
This is more a matter for a county prosecutor, a grand jury and a trial court than it is for us, though.
Should charges be brought?
I think they should, since this will help in defining the law going forward.
Statutes are written, but law is made as those statutes are interpreted at the case level through trials and layers of appeal.
I personally believe that there should be a lot more criminal actions against the financial engineers and the techhead keyboard jocks than we see.
When someone causes real harm to others through negligent or often deliberate actions, they need to be held to account and criminal prosecutions would give pause to their peers.
As I noted above, there's nothing like the prospect of actual state time to focus the minds of these boys who think themselves so clever.