UAL B767 go around?
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That looks a bit.......unnerving.
Possible wind shear and pilot induced oscillations?
That was so close to having a really bad ending.
The video was taken in ZRH.
This event is part of an active flight safety investigation, with privileged information, to which I have access.
So, I cannot comment on it in any way.
This event is part of an active flight safety investigation, with privileged information, to which I have access.
So, I cannot comment on it in any way.
Looks like a flight attendant is landing it 
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I didn’t see any spoilers up after touchdown.
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No tail strike, no pushing forward.
No damage.
Second landing the spoilers extend.
I wonder if they were armed the first landing.
No damage.
Second landing the spoilers extend.
I wonder if they were armed the first landing.
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Sure couldn't see them in the 1st attempt. Everything looked perfect on that first one...smooth as silk until it lifted. In my arm-chair quarterbacking position, I think you found a huge clue.
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If you forget to arm the spoilers on the Airbus, they automatically extend when reverse thrust is used.
This aircraft obviously never applied reverse thrust because no manufacturer allows pilots to do take off again ( float, touches down far, pilots decide to take off again after touchdown ) after reverse thrust is used in case they don’t stow properly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Western_Airlines_Flight_314
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It’s better to do a go around before the plane touches the runway.
Let’s put it this way, we train for low energy go arounds ( initiated a few feet above the runway ) but not for taking off again after all 3 gear have made contact and the flaps are in the landing configuration.
On the Airbus, if the go around is initiated very close to the runway ( couple of feet ) , it may contact the runway and trigger the “ configuration warning” ( loud cockpit warning ) because the plane thinks the pilots are taking off with too much flap ( we land with flap 4 ) versus doing a hybrid go around/take off from a landing with flap 4. We cannot take off with more than flap 3.
If a crew isn’t aware of why that warning is blaring, it might confuse them and cause other problems at a time when they don’t need any distractions and confusion. A loud warning bell repeatedly going off can startle people.
Just finished my dead head, time to drive home.
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Slightly off topic, but this reminded me of the first go around I ever experienced just a few months ago in Mexico City. I think we were in a 737. The back wheels for sure touched and then we took back off. I was a bit confused/concerned as were others, probably because the pilot said nothing.
Looking back I’m sure that’s a completely normal and smart thing to do..just a first for me. I’m told the wind can be pretty bad in CDMX. I respect the heck out of pilots making those split second decisions with all the information coming in. Truly seems overwhelming.
Looking back I’m sure that’s a completely normal and smart thing to do..just a first for me. I’m told the wind can be pretty bad in CDMX. I respect the heck out of pilots making those split second decisions with all the information coming in. Truly seems overwhelming.
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We have to make a PA to passengers after a go around when the time is right. Lots of nervous people on planes and an unexpected go around can make them pretty anxious.
I used to fly to Mexico City a lot, it’s not very windy and we never did a go around nor did we hear any other flights performing one.
Sometimes go arounds just happen.
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Hmm good to know, glad it’s rare as I may be there more often.
