Tyreek Hill detainment

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Now you are speculating about a cop doing this to a frail elderly person, not a combative NFL diva driving an exotic car.

Lets be real, its very unlikely to happen but thats your "what if".
You just agreed the officer's behavior was wrong. You just have an issue with who the victim is.
 
I'll just say that my best friend from junior high until he passed away in his sleep at 35, was a cop. He became a cop to help people. After only a short time as a sworn police officer, he found that some of his colleagues weren't in it for the same reason as him, and were in fact power-mad imbeciles. His advice to me was to avoid having ANY contact with a police officer, because you never know who the good ones are.

Yes, there are psychological tests which are supposed to weed those individuals out before they ever get on the job. That doesn't always happen.

I don't know enough about this situation to have an opinion. If the football player was treated improperly, I hope the officer(s) will be held accountable. If the football player was in the wrong, I hope he's held accountable.
 
It’s clear don’t agree 🙃
Can’t wait to hear the outcome of the investigation
I posted my version which doesn’t match yours. I look forward to the outcome.

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I think the officers could have maybe toned their voice down a little, but the fact remains he was asked to get out (lawful order) and asked for his license) lawful order) You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but at what point is the cop allowed to be frustrated? The video CLEARLY shows Tyreek was uncooperative once he opened the door, AS WELL as before he opened the door.

Placing him on the ground, making sure he doesn't move until cuffed, is a textbook procedure.....undisputed. This would NOT have happened had he rolled his window down (required) and been polite. Tyreek chose to be forcibly detained....now we just have to watch the department cater to the coddled society.
 
I think the officers could have maybe toned their voice down a little, but the fact remains he was asked to get out (lawful order) and asked for his license) lawful order) You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but at what point is the cop allowed to be frustrated? The video CLEARLY shows Tyreek was uncooperative once he opened the door, AS WELL as before he opened the door.

Placing him on the ground, making sure he doesn't move until cuffed, is a textbook procedure.....undisputed. This would NOT have happened had he rolled his window down (required) and been polite. Tyreek chose to be forcibly detained....now we just have to watch the department cater to the coddled society.
Proper training, it is the police officer job as a public servant. If he gets frustrated then he doesnt deserve to have a badge. Getting frustrated is not an excuse, he isnt police material then. In fact, down right dangerous.
I do not see any resistance when told to get out of the car. The door was opened, his foot stepped out, was then grabbed and slammed to the ground. The outcome of the investigation I think will prove that to you but we will see.

What I find REALLY scary is this was an affluent person. I hate to see what happens to the poor person in the middle of the night with this officer. Like I say, the investigation will tell us.
 
No, being handcuffed is not being detained. The SCOTUS ruled on that, so you can't say the since I was cuffed, I was detained.


I am not mistaking the difference between being cuffed, detained, and arrarrested.
I want to politely let you know that you are ignorant to the term "detained" in the sense of law enforcement.

Detaining someone is keeping them from causing harm to themselves and others as much as possible, as well as trying to flee. You can be detained outside the police vehicle or inside, this includes being cuffed.

Arresting is being taken to a police facility in cuffs.

I also assume every cop show on TV for the last 30 years showing people being detained (in cuffs) is not correct.....

OK. Lol.
 
Proper training, it is the police officer job as a public servant. If he gets frustrated then he doesnt deserve to have a badge. Getting frustrated is not an excuse, he isnt police material then.
I do not see any resistance when told to get out of the car. The door was opened, his foot stepped out, was then grabbed and slammed to the ground. The outcome of the investigation I think will prove that to you but we will see.
From the time the cop approached the car, to when Tyreek finally got out was how long and after how many commands? Did you fast-forward the clip?

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Slammed to the ground? Define "slammed"
 
I think the officers could have maybe toned their voice down a little, but the fact remains he was asked to get out (lawful order) and asked for his license) lawful order) You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but at what point is the cop allowed to be frustrated? The video CLEARLY shows Tyreek was uncooperative once he opened the door, AS WELL as before he opened the door.

Placing him on the ground, making sure he doesn't move until cuffed, is a textbook procedure.....undisputed. This would NOT have happened had he rolled his window down (required) and been polite. Tyreek chose to be forcibly detained....now we just have to watch the department cater to the coddled society.
I don't think you saw the same video as I did.
 
From your article... Now who's the punk?

The officer knocks on the window and Hill tells the officer not to knock on his window like that as he hands over his driver’s license. Hill then tells the officer to give him his ticket and rolls the window back up. The officer demands that Hill keep his window down.

"Keep your window down, or I’m going to get you out of the car. As a matter of fact, get out of the car," the officer says.

A second officer threatens to break the window.

"We’re not playing this game," another officer says as the bodycam shows one officer opening the door, reaching into Hill’s car and pulling him out with a third officer’s help.

"Hey Drew, I’m getting arrested Drew," Hill is heard saying, apparently speaking with his agent, Drew Rosenhaus.

One officer says, "When we tell you to do something, you do it, not what you want but when we tell you. You’re a little f---ing confused."
 
I am Not a fan of Dark Window Tint. During a stop When one puts the window up who knows what he is hiding or reaching for.
I believe in some states having tinted windows is not a primary offense, or whatever you call it, which provides enough reason to pull someone over for. Does the tint industry really have that much lobby power? :ROFLMAO:

Point is, despite what I feel was terrible behavior from the cops then, and even with the real possibility they could have ended my life on the side of the road, I kept my cool and stayed respectful throughout the whole thing. Point is, it is possible to do. Do not fight the cops. Don't challenge or provolk them. Comply to their demands, even if they are wrong. Then again, I am not a multi-millionaire NFL diva. Sort it out afterwards. Much easier to do today than it was years ago.
Yep, the side of the road is not the place to argue your understanding of the law. In fact, the more you talk, the more the officer will add to the report. This will make you look bad in court. Just swallow your pride, comply, and deal with it in front of the judge. This is the advice many attorneys give. Hopefully there is a body cam or you can spring for an attorney, but if you don't act like an ass, you probably won't have to worry about this.
 
Officers have no idea who he is, intentions, anything being hidden, and weapons next to him....all this is unknown and now becomes a factor. At this point, the suspect will be separated from the vehicle and quickly detained. Again...because of the unknowns and safety is #1.

If Tyreek rolled his window down, left it down, and let the officer conduct the stop, ot would have VERY LIKELY ended well.
 
Cop did me a favor when I was 19.

Similar situation except I was parked.
Cop didnt do me a favor when I was 19 years old. I was parked with my girlfriend and we, ummm ... were in the back seat *LOL* Not exactly with all our clothes on either.
Holy smokes!
He was cool though, said neighbors were nervous about my car on the street ... and to go someplace else *LOL*
 
I want to politely let you know that you are ignorant to the term "detained" in the sense of law enforcement.

Detaining someone is keeping them from causing harm to themselves and others as much as possible, as well as trying to flee. You can be detained outside the police vehicle or inside, this includes being cuffed.

Arresting is being taken to a police facility in cuffs.

I also assume every cop show on TV for the last 30 years showing people being detained (in cuffs) is not correct.....

OK. Lol.
It is well understood that handcuffing or putting someone in the back seat of a squad car for a reasonably short duration is not considered a detainment. That's all I'm trying to point out.
 
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