News sources that I checked just now say he was charged with careless driving and failure to wear a seatbelt. The cops stated he was pulled over for reckless driving. Don't know why he was only charged with careless driving if he was pulled over for reckless driving. Guess it wasn't that reckless but I assume we'll see the dashcam footage if it exists.
Tyreek Hill detainment
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I agree, and clearly there is no aggression, absolutely no aggression, except from the police.
And as somebody else pointed out from the video that was posted at the New York Post site, he was clearly getting out of the car with a foot already on the ground when he was grabbed by the police officer and the other gang of officers. Thrown to the ground and handcuffed.
Yeah, seems to be quite a bit of stuff floating around. Here is just one of many articles I'm referring to:
"Hill was cited for reckless driving and driving without a license, said his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. "
https://www.nbcnews.com/sports/nfl/tyreek-hill-police-stop-miami-dolphins-rcna170253
It looks like a McLaren 720S.
He's a spoiled brat that somehow thinks he's oppressed in this country while driving a supercar on a however many multi million contract to throw a ball. What did you expect.
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"Violence" was not the first tactic. Watch the video and you will hear the banter back and forth. Like the Florida law or not, Hill was given a lawful order under detainment and refused. Downhill from there. I wouldn't judge completely until I saw the complete BWC and not just what some media outlets want to show.
Hill was non-cooperative and that is part of what a cop has to deal with. Leaving that one there as he can be a AXX and that's fine but once he refused a lawful order the table turned and he was met with the same aggression he demonstrated from contact. That is grey area and not a one of us can say how that will end up -- cop or Hill?
To me, A Whole met a fellow A Whole.
Funny I just did an image search because of @JeffKeryk suggestion of a McLaren
You are correct although I’m not familiar with the model. I just did an image search and it showed McLaren on the back of the car.
Ps, OK I am impressed. You are correct after more searching. I see 720.
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Both are wrong.
1. He behaved as privileged, money etc.
2. The cop was expecting respect, etc. I work with cops, and I design training for them, but one thing that gets my blood pressure through the roof is cops who want respect. Nowhere is that "required."
He rolled up the window, they got in exchange and pulled him out too fast because the cop got his pride hurt. Now, here is where the problem is with cop reaction. This is Miami! This is tourist hot spot. Nowhere in the world police stops people like that. If this was a tourist, that does not understand how things work here, it could escalate to the point where things could get really serious. I get the part about safety etc. but there were other ways to try to calm down situation.
4. Once they realized who he was, that bunch of people is recording, it sent that same cop into panic mode, he is yelling at people that pulled over to get driving license etc. Typical beahvior of cop that thinks he has privilege bcs. uniform. In my opinion, there is no difference between Tyreek's privilege and that cop's. The source of it is the only differentiating factor.
Edit: Also, why did three motorcycles make a traffic stop? That is immediate escalation. Did he run away? No, because they would do it differently, they would immediately pull him out.
1. He behaved as privileged, money etc.
2. The cop was expecting respect, etc. I work with cops, and I design training for them, but one thing that gets my blood pressure through the roof is cops who want respect. Nowhere is that "required."
He rolled up the window, they got in exchange and pulled him out too fast because the cop got his pride hurt. Now, here is where the problem is with cop reaction. This is Miami! This is tourist hot spot. Nowhere in the world police stops people like that. If this was a tourist, that does not understand how things work here, it could escalate to the point where things could get really serious. I get the part about safety etc. but there were other ways to try to calm down situation.
4. Once they realized who he was, that bunch of people is recording, it sent that same cop into panic mode, he is yelling at people that pulled over to get driving license etc. Typical beahvior of cop that thinks he has privilege bcs. uniform. In my opinion, there is no difference between Tyreek's privilege and that cop's. The source of it is the only differentiating factor.
Edit: Also, why did three motorcycles make a traffic stop? That is immediate escalation. Did he run away? No, because they would do it differently, they would immediately pull him out.
He was not detained until ripped out of the car and what lawful order are you referring to?
What law?
Just like anybody, he was pulled over for the way he was driving. Why was he thrown on the ground and handcuffed for a traffic ticket?
Agree. This.alarmguy,
I agree the cops went too far.
But as a driver you have to keep you window down and give them your license, registration and insurance card.
I’ve got out of 5 tickets (I was 100% guilty) and kept my cool, was respectful to cop and simply did what I was instructed to do.
No cop(s) want to be challenged.
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I agree the cops went too far.
But as a driver you have to keep you window down and give them your license, registration and insurance card.
I’ve got out of 5 tickets (I was 100% guilty) and kept my cool, was respectful to cop and simply did what I was instructed to do.
No cop(s) want to be challenged.
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I’m white, middle age and was driving a sportscar in the 5 tickets I got out of.
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If a cop thinks people must be respectful, he/she should find another job.
That is NOT what should determine whether you are taken to jail etc. In China, Russia, yes, perhaps.
He complied by passing his license and registration at which point the window was down. The continued argument was illegally extending the stop.
He was told to exit the vehicle and attempted to do so, but within about one second was grabbed by his head and thrown to the ground.
My wife calls me, Teflon because I am respectful and have much of the same experience as you and that goes for even when I was a punk teenager. I can’t remember how many times I was pulled over racing in my GTO to be told to slow down and let go. Even recently on my Harley Davidson when I took the bike lane in traffic at the beach, the officer and I had a really nice conversation and he complemented me for being polite and I him. He told me to stay out of the bike lane that the bicycle store owner is the one that called it in.
But as uncalled for as obnoxious this guy was in my eyes, it does not justify the police action that was taken. I have to be honest with you and I don’t want to single out your state, but I seem to see a lot of this down there.
He did turn over his paperwork right away. He rolled up his window, but after repeated requests, he did roll it down. The cop lost his cool and as another posted actually was voluntarily getting out of the car when told to and yet that cop grabbed him as he was getting out, threw him on the ground and handcuffed him.
I would find it quite scary if that police officer and his friends pulled somebody over at night where there would no witnesses and let’s say a poor person not driving a car like he was driving was subjected to something like this.
I would love to know, and we may find out if past complaints were filed against this officer. Because for him to act in this matter in Broad, daylight with obviously an affluent person, I hate to see how a poor person would have been treated
This!
It's been a good long while since I've been pulled over, but let me tell you how it went. I was on my way home from a night college class and had just passed somebody who was going unreasonably slow in a 45 mph zone. I made a right turn onto a 35 mph road and continued traveling at about 48 mph. I entered a part of the road that had no residential developments, no street lights, etc... This stretch of road was pitch dark. The cop came out of nowhere. I pulled over, proceeded to roll all my windows down, turn the car off, left the headlights on, switched on the dome light, and had my license in my left hand, my insurance card in my right hand, both sticking out the driver window. He did shine his flashlight on my book bag, in the passenger seat. He's no dummy, but he also didn't feel threatened.
I left with a warning.
To me, behaving in this way made my night go a lot easier than it would have, had I decided to be an ***hole. To me, the choice is clear. To others, the logic seems to be lost on them.
I left with a warning.
To me, behaving in this way made my night go a lot easier than it would have, had I decided to be an ***hole. To me, the choice is clear. To others, the logic seems to be lost on them.
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The moment the MC cops turned their lights on Mr. Hill was detained. Those MC cop's lights mean a gov't agent is demanding you stop your progress and address him/her. You are dealing in emotion not law.
When he was ripped out of the car his status changed in my state (NY) for sure. I can not answer that in FL law.
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